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Offline DamonDore

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« on: July 18, 2016, 09:24:14 AM »
Now I know I said this at a different topic, but It'd be nice to start with it. :venus_djinn:

"I honestly could wait a little less tense, as long as I knew for sure if Camelot was making a new Golden Sun. I just NEED... Wait, let me rephrase that.  :01: WE NEED the storyline complete. :01: Honestly if they made a 4th Golden Sun that was A LOT better than Dark Dawn (Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but it could've been better) and the game answered most of the unanswered questions that we all have, It'd be a great way to end it. Hell, make it longer even. Longer than the other Golden Sun Games in my opinion.
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Hell, if they don't want to make any more games for it, they should sell it to a different company (But hopefully try and keep the same storyline/plot writer) and have them make Golden Sun Games. :venus_djinn: And not Games like in a row. People on this site have mentioned spin off games and such, but what if after Camelot made the 4th game and sold the franchise, the company who bought it made those ideas into reality. Like the party you have is  :saturos: Saturos :saturos: and  :menardi: Menardi :menardi:, and you have unique party characters from Prox as well, but oddly enough they aren't just the fire element (Just an idea). The game has them leaving Prox at a low Level, and they go on a journey to discover lore and such on how to save Prox. Along with somewhere in there, you'd discover how they met Alex and such. There could be bosses protecting said lore, and eventually they find out that the information they need is from Kraden :kraden:. But this is the part after they lose their party in the trap in Mt. Aleph. Then it shows them pulling out  :isaac: Isaac's Dad,  :felix: Felix and  :jenna: Jenna's parent's, and  :felix: Felix. From then on it would be Golden Sun: The Broken Seal, told in the other groups position. I feel like many Golden Sun fans would find this game very interesting, as well as bringing newcomers to enjoy the franchise and become a young Adept. Also having the newcomer's playing the originals as well.

 :54: Driving me nuts not knowing what's happening in Camelot. :54:

What I'm saying is maybe Camelot doesn't want to give false hope to fans who feel very strongly about Golden Sun. Maybe they're out of ideas for the story. Get people to email them story Ideas. For the future of Golden Sun, the past, the In-Between, the other Characters origin stories, like enemies, etc. HELL MAYBE KRADEN :kraden: IS AN UNDERCOVER ADEPT :89:

It could be a game where he's young and goes on quests for Babi, and looks for a replacement of Babi's elixer and such, who know's. I'm just saying. Come up with ideas (But not mine, I'll be emailing Camelot my  :saturos: Saturos and  :menardi: Menardi game idea myself) and send Camelot an email! it'll give them ideas as well as realize that there really is a demand for more of the franchise.
 :isaac2:"

I can make a whole Story for a game, and want this Forum to be a place where people can say their ideas for games in the Golden Sun series, and get some opinions of other people about it, constructive criticsim, etc.
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Now what did everyone think of my Saturos and Menardi Concept idea? should I write a story and see if you guys like it enough and send it to Camelot?

I need to find out the rest of the Storyline. FOH.

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 09:13:28 AM »
(Hello!)

So if this is your idea on how to get Camelot to make the fourth game, you should know that it will fall on deaf ears since it's been tried before, and Nintendo does not appear to be interested in the series at all.

Not only that, this forum is very inactive these days. There are other GS forums that may be more active, but the general consensus here is that hope for GS4 is pretty much gone, which is one of the main contributing reasons for the GS community's wane. The rest of us who still pop up here every now and then don't even talk about GS anymore.

Given the current trends in the gaming industry, I personally think a remake of the first two games is more likely than GS4 at this point. But even then, I don't see it happening either.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2016, 12:24:52 AM »
I understand where you're coming from, but I"m still gonna fight for it. Whether or not if it continues the storyline, or remakes the games, Golden Sun NEEDS to come back. It's too great of a game to simply let go. If anything they should at least sell the franchise to another Game developing company. Or SOMETHING. I translated Camelot's Website, and found out that you don't need college or anything, you just need skills in Coding, a game idea, and etc. It'd be great if we had Golden Sun Fans go into that line of work and try and get it going from the inside.

Such a serious Convo, and we just met  :biggrin: Nice to meet you Star Magician, I'm Damon. :venus_djinn:
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2016, 09:58:15 PM »
The one benefit of Golden Sun: Dark Dawn being a failure in sales is that it makes it much cheaper to buy it off from Nintendo. We could always try a patreon or kickstarter and raise up enough money to buy the franchise ourselves. The next is to find a group of people interested in the project who also have an idea of how to develop the mechanics of the game and the flow of the story. The hard part is music, since that I can imagine, will cost just as much as the franchise rights, so an original style must be developed (so long classic theme)
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 07:10:24 AM »
Good luck getting Nintendo to part with any IP, especially outside of Japan. Just sayin'

It would be more likely that Nintendo would license it to a third party developer, but they wouldn't pick just anyone who's willing to throw their money around. If you wanted to get involved personally, you would have to start up a dev team, make a competent enough game to get Nintendo's attention (and release it on their systems), then persuade them to license it to you. Again, good luck.

Honestly, I think the most productive thing to do is to show Nintendo that we the fans are still interested and still want a completion to the series. The best place, in my opinion, to gather the fanbase would be the Golden Sun Reddit page, since many gamers may already have a Reddit account to begin with, and it is a place where game developers actually look and participate.

One thing, however. The fans should certainly NOT try to make a fourth game on their own. Nintendo WILL shut it down, as seen with almost every fan project that people have tried (AM2R, Pokémon Uranium, Mario 64 HD are recent examples).

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 08:04:39 PM »
The one benefit of Golden Sun: Dark Dawn being a failure in sales is that it makes it much cheaper to buy it off from Nintendo. We could always try a patreon or kickstarter and raise up enough money to buy the franchise ourselves. The next is to find a group of people interested in the project who also have an idea of how to develop the mechanics of the game and the flow of the story. The hard part is music, since that I can imagine, will cost just as much as the franchise rights, so an original style must be developed (so long classic theme)
I agree L. Well, if we do get the franchise rights, we could always try and talk to Camelot about getting permission to use their music, and if we do, I'd recommend using Golden Sun Legends. It's different, but stays true to Golden Sun.
I need to find out the rest of the Storyline. FOH.

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 08:15:43 PM »
Good luck getting Nintendo to part with any IP, especially outside of Japan. Just sayin'

It would be more likely that Nintendo would license it to a third party developer, but they wouldn't pick just anyone who's willing to throw their money around. If you wanted to get involved personally, you would have to start up a dev team, make a competent enough game to get Nintendo's attention (and release it on their systems), then persuade them to license it to you. Again, good luck.

Honestly, I think the most productive thing to do is to show Nintendo that we the fans are still interested and still want a completion to the series. The best place, in my opinion, to gather the fanbase would be the Golden Sun Reddit page, since many gamers may already have a Reddit account to begin with, and it is a place where game developers actually look and participate.

One thing, however. The fans should certainly NOT try to make a fourth game on their own. Nintendo WILL shut it down, as seen with almost every fan project that people have tried (AM2R, Pokémon Uranium, Mario 64 HD are recent examples).

I see your point, but if Nintendo really doesn't want to do anything else with it, I don't think there is really a point for them to keep it. Out of the whole franchise, they only did one thing to it in the past 5 years. Put ONE song on Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS. And that's about it.

WAIT AN IDEA JUST SPRANG TO MIND. What if we come up with a gameplan, a storyline for the game, how it would go, puzzles, basically everything except the coding and the game itself, kind of like a script. We present it to Camelot first, see if they like it. And if they do, we ask them about what Nintendo thinks about Golden Sun, and if Camelot thinks Nintendo would like our game plan. If they think we should try, we do. We then go talk to Nintendo and as Star Magician said, try and have Nintendo have us be a third party developer.

But, we gotta start at the drawing board. So, as this topic suggests, what would your idea for a new Golden Sun Game be?
I need to find out the rest of the Storyline. FOH.

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 09:34:40 PM »
It's also been a dream of mine to make a fan movie, or a youtube web series. Live action with actors and such. I feel like it'd be a cool project. :venus_djinn:
I need to find out the rest of the Storyline. FOH.

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2016, 09:07:41 AM »
I see your point, but if Nintendo really doesn't want to do anything else with it, I don't think there is really a point for them to keep it. Out of the whole franchise, they only did one thing to it in the past 5 years. Put ONE song on Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS. And that's about it.

Okay, but does Nintendo think the same way? Probably not, and since they own the IP, that's up to them. If they disapprove, then there's really nothing we can do about it. Plus, there actually is a point to them holding onto the IP: digital download sales. People did buy both GBA Golden Sun games once they arrived on the virtual console, and honestly, getting the fans to buy these games on VC has a better chance of making GS4 happen than trying to acquire the IP itself.
Still, if you can at least get a response out of Nintendo somehow, knowing what they want or don't want to do with the series is an important first step to your cause. I still think gathering the fanbase on the GS Reddit is a good way to show that there's still interest in the series. You will have to prove that making a fourth GS game is in Nintendo's best interest financially. They are a business, after all.

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2016, 06:53:01 PM »
Good luck getting Nintendo to part with any IP, especially outside of Japan. Just sayin'

It would be more likely that Nintendo would license it to a third party developer, but they wouldn't pick just anyone who's willing to throw their money around. If you wanted to get involved personally, you would have to start up a dev team, make a competent enough game to get Nintendo's attention (and release it on their systems), then persuade them to license it to you. Again, good luck.

Honestly, I think the most productive thing to do is to show Nintendo that we the fans are still interested and still want a completion to the series. The best place, in my opinion, to gather the fanbase would be the Golden Sun Reddit page, since many gamers may already have a Reddit account to begin with, and it is a place where game developers actually look and participate.

One thing, however. The fans should certainly NOT try to make a fourth game on their own. Nintendo WILL shut it down, as seen with almost every fan project that people have tried (AM2R, Pokémon Uranium, Mario 64 HD are recent examples).

I see your point, but if Nintendo really doesn't want to do anything else with it, I don't think there is really a point for them to keep it. Out of the whole franchise, they only did one thing to it in the past 5 years. Put ONE song on Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS. And that's about it.

WAIT AN IDEA JUST SPRANG TO MIND. What if we come up with a gameplan, a storyline for the game, how it would go, puzzles, basically everything except the coding and the game itself, kind of like a script. We present it to Camelot first, see if they like it. And if they do, we ask them about what Nintendo thinks about Golden Sun, and if Camelot thinks Nintendo would like our game plan. If they think we should try, we do. We then go talk to Nintendo and as Star Magician said, try and have Nintendo have us be a third party developer.

But, we gotta start at the drawing board. So, as this topic suggests, what would your idea for a new Golden Sun Game be?

Well if we are gonna start talking about ideas on how to start the game how about with young  :isaac: isaac and  :garet: garet deciding 2 weeks after to study mt.aleph and give a basic idea of how the relation ship with  :jenna: and  :isaac: started to have young matthew and were everyone else is in present day especially info on  :piers: piers age (and if he's considered a pedophile now) then cut to matthew group suck inside the vortex

and has anybody here played Pokemon black and white 2 and know how to connect both saves from 1 to 2 we could do something similar like that to gs4 or have an excuse that the vortex made them extremely weak like how they showed with tyrell in the beginning (for those who did not connect the game) to start fresh off because if we connect dark dawn and gs4 then it has to be much harder for obvious reasons

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 03:35:07 AM »
Okay guys. New idea. Movie. Live action. Everything. I talked with MomoSky/Skyberry Smphony (They made the soundtrack of Golden Sun Legends, it's on DevientArt) and they said that once we get far enough they'll compose a soundtrack for the movie. So as of right now, before we start talking to Nintendo about this, I would like to make a script. That way we have something to present to them so they'd hopefully be intrigued and see what we come up with. I'd like the script to be closest to the games as possible. I also realize that we can't cram both games into 1 movie, so it'd have to be a series of movies, but let's work one one right now to impress Nintendo so we can be sure they'd let us finish the series. If you want to help, just let me know!
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 08:07:52 AM »
My idea is ditch the cast from Dark Dawn, there is one man who can save the series... One man we all thought was evil, but it turns out he is the savior.. Alexa!!

Turn based RPGs are kind of dead now so I'm thinking they should continue the story with Alex as the main hero on a quest to save Weyard from the evil High Emperor and a perfect way to do this is make it a Zelda like adventure

Alex would even interact with the main cast from the first few games, theyd just be npcs

The combat system would transfer from turned based to action style similar to Xenoverse, and btw Alex can fly so basically I'm saying turn Alex into a Dragonball Z fighter and put him in a Zelda game, thats what I want to see with a new Golden Sun game.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2017, 08:54:44 AM »
As ridiculous as that idea sounds.......... I'd play it.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 04:47:48 AM »
If I were to make a GS game, I'd make Golden Sun Chronicles, a game set in the time before Alchemy was sealed and tell a story with new characters so as to not ruin Camelot's story that they refuse to tell, but still make a new game in the series. It wouldn't deal with the sealing of Alchemy, tough, but some other threat, IDK what.