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Title: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: L on May 01, 2013, 03:29:02 PM
I hope that one day we can login under our current usernames, with previous ones being unable to be used

Also I suggest that all 0 posts accounts every 6 months should get deleted and/or banned from the forum, spam bots will always get around the system, time to put the nail to it
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Nyran on May 01, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Meh, I don't change my Name much, if at all, so I don't mid that. I agree with you on the spam bot thing, though.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 01, 2013, 04:41:46 PM
That's impossible. There are too many for Maegra and I to find and ban. It would seriously take hours.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: L on May 01, 2013, 04:45:03 PM
That's impossible. There are too many for Maegra and I to find and ban. It would seriously take hours.
Hours? You kidding me, I have to stand here at work for hours
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Merc on May 01, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
And Legend has other things to do. This isn't his job, he does it in his spare time. It's not like Sea pays him.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: L on May 01, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Then It should be Sea Kings job, don't tell me he can't do it, I've seen dozens of other forums have the same thing going on
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Merc on May 01, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
He can. He just doesn't have the time. Once again, he isn't paid to do this, and looking at the incredible lack of advertisements anywhere on the forum or on the main site, he is paying for the domain out of his own pocket, and has to work to obtain that money. We're lucky that this forum exists and is able to continue existing at all, so why are you being so demanding? If you like those sites so much and hate ours, then why don't you just get up and leave?
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Scorpio on May 01, 2013, 05:14:22 PM
That last line was needless, Merc. I do think it would be cool to ban those bots like that, but it's not possible for this site at the moment. Now stop fighting before you start, you two.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Maegra on May 01, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
That last line was needless, Merc. I do think it would be cool to ban those bots like that, but it's not possible for this site at the moment. Now stop fighting before you start, you two.

Agreed. We don't want any more harsh words thrown around after the Spark incident not so long ago.

Asura, fact is I work on average 5-6 hours a day plus I've two younger brothers to take care of on a daily basis. My free time is used to relax and play my games, and when time allows it I jump on and make sure everything's in order here at the forums alongside cleaning up any obvious spam threads and such.

As Merc said, we're all busy people in our daily lives, this is a place we come to escape that and just have fun for a bit. Don't expect too much from what little we have.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 01, 2013, 05:39:24 PM
If you think you're the only one that's busy, you're wrong, L. I don't know why you insist on arguing with us. You're getting no where.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: L on May 01, 2013, 05:50:19 PM
Then Add a Mod to take care of this work

BTW Merc, it's Sea's own fault that he doesn't have ads, so it's also his fault he is paying more so than he normally would be

And that last line was pure arrogance, have fun with that
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 01, 2013, 06:19:36 PM
You're still getting no where with this argument.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Scorpio on May 01, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
This topic is just a flame war in the making. I believe it should be closed down before the eventual argument between L and Merc gets them both banned.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: L on May 01, 2013, 06:48:43 PM
You're still getting no where with this argument.
Your job as moderator is to ensure this forum is secure, well, what happens if a bot uploads viruses, what then? Since you guys haven't bother stopping them from activating, you would of then costed the forum
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Maegra on May 01, 2013, 07:09:38 PM
You're still getting no where with this argument.
Your job as moderator is to ensure this forum is secure, well, what happens if a bot uploads viruses, what then? Since you guys haven't bother stopping them from activating, you would of then costed the forum

This is a voluntary position for people who Sea trusts, there's no job descriptions or the like. Nowhere on this forum does it state that we as Mods are enforced to do anything in particular besides basically keeping the peace. In fact had we not volunteered for these positions long ago, many times this forum would have already collapsed under itself. Speaking of such, you're causing quite the ruckus as of late. And we, as peacekeepers, will have to do something about this if your general behaviour keeps up.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 01, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
This forum has been in service for over 7 years. Half of that time I have been mod and Maegra has been mod the whole time. We know what we're doing. Thanks for your consideration, but we have it under control.

You have been a member here for some time. Please, you're causing a ruckus, so we're going to ask you to stop.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Aether on May 01, 2013, 08:01:11 PM
With that spam bot idea, people who haven't been on but came back (like Will, for a while) wont be able to. And that's not good.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 05:33:38 AM
I suggested the deletion of spam bot accounts with 0 posts several months ago, just so you know. I would volunteer to do it myself if I thought it was worth the time, but it really isn't. They just sit there and do nothing now.

EDIT: Here it is. (http://goldensunforums.thelostwaters.com/index.php?topic=1466.0)
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 05:35:23 AM
Then Add a Mod to take care of this work

BTW Merc, it's Sea's own fault that he doesn't have ads, so it's also his fault he is paying more so than he normally would be

Erm, the lack of ads is a good thing, and I  believe we should be thankful towards Sea.   Please don't get defensive, we're all friends here.

I think the banning idea has potential, but I do see the problems.   What if instead we banned people who haven't been on for two years?   And then instead of trying to do them all at the same time, we do them a handful at a time until they're gone, it would take longer but it wouldn't be as demanding.    Maybe you could get two or three volunteers to be temporary mods to help out with that? Just spit-balling of course.   I wouldn't mind helping with that,  but I couldn't guaranty being very speedy about it since I'm not on here 24/7.   But with my slight OCD nature, I would actually probably enjoy going through and cleaning up a little.  Maybe others on the site are of a similar view?     Of course, if this idea is vetoed, then oh well.  No problem.  :smile:
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Maegra on May 02, 2013, 06:48:15 AM
We've toyed with the idea with temp mods and giving power to people before and things got messy sometimes, so we try to avoid that when possible.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 06:55:08 AM
*nods* very understandable.   I'm in charge of, or an officer in several school clubs.  I understand the difficulty of giving people power.    Okey doke.  *shrug*  scrap the idea, but I'm here to help if ever it is needed.         Though I am a little relieved.  I know I would only feel guilty at not doing more than I'd have time for, even if I were to do more than expected.   Of course, though, as I said, happy to help if you need it.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Maegra on May 02, 2013, 07:23:25 AM
Trust me, I feel guilty myself for not being able to put in a whole lot of extra effort into this place, but time constraints simply don't allow for it. We all wish this place was tidier, even us Mods. Unfortunately we just have to make do with what we've got for now.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 01:44:58 PM
It's not a problem Maegra, I understand.  :smile:         Besides, the spambots are nothing like when I first joined, so I'm rather content   :smile:



Gah!!! I just noticed a major typo in my post to Asura.  I'll go back and fix it.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 04:19:49 PM
We've toyed with the idea with temp mods and giving power to people before and things got messy sometimes, so we try to avoid that when possible.
Come on, you could trust me.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 04:24:19 PM
Actually I think we could.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Scorpio on May 02, 2013, 04:29:52 PM
I know I'd only ever want to be a restricted mod of the RP section. That's really all I'd ever want.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
Yeah.  I don't think I'd like being a permanent mod. I'd rather help, then quickly be demoted again.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 04:33:21 PM
Actually I think we could.
Even so, I would rather not do it. Lol.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 02, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
It would definitely have to be someone that's trust worthy, and won't start a coup and ban everyone. lol.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 04:59:25 PM
And someone with loads of free time.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 05:03:08 PM
That's why I figured it would take two or three trustworthy people.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
Righto. But depending on how long it really takes to delete one account, it may not even be worth doing it over a long period of time lol. I mean, there are over 1000 accounts with 0 posts o.O
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Oh you have a point.  How long does it take to delete an account?
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 02, 2013, 05:19:44 PM
Depending on the speed of your connection, it takes about 30 seconds to ban someone.
Would you like me to demonstrate? Do I have any volunteers?
 :gshappy:
 :mia:

Just kidding of course.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Star Magician on May 02, 2013, 05:21:50 PM
I'm always up for new things.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 05:26:23 PM
Theoretically, if you had two people together deleting 50 people a week, less than ten people a day, it would add up after awhile. Especially since they'd only be deleting the really old one, not all of them.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 02, 2013, 06:09:13 PM
True. I can try to do that while studying.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
:mellow:     I don't want to make more work for you.  You're busy enough as is.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Scorpio on May 02, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
Maybe you can just delete 5-10 a day for the rest of the month? Maybe delete afew more during summer?
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 05, 2013, 01:39:47 AM
Yeah I'll be doing some after finals this week. I'll let you guys know.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on May 05, 2013, 03:39:14 AM
Sorry to make more work for you.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 05, 2013, 03:57:53 AM
Nahh it's cool! All i'll be doing over summer is sleeping anyway. lol.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Scorpio on May 05, 2013, 04:40:21 AM
Thanks for being a true bad@$$ about this, Leg.
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Ivan Strider on May 05, 2013, 08:08:14 AM
My suggestion when deleting accounts is to delete only the people who joined a long time ago and have never posted anything and also delete people with usernames that should be used as passwords, like 11wd34! 
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on May 05, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
Thanks for being a true bad@$$ about this, Leg.
I try. lol.
 :gshappy:
 :mia:

Yeah, i know what to look for. Thanks Lux!
Title: Re: Name logins and Spam bots
Post by: Ivan Strider on May 05, 2013, 09:24:40 AM
Oh...........ok