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Title: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 15, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
We should make it so that it takes more than one mod to ban a mod. That woul have prevented the whole Sparkx thing.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 16, 2013, 02:00:33 AM
Makes sense.    But don't we only have the two?
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Post by: L on October 16, 2013, 02:30:11 AM
That makes no sense, the only people who should be allowed to ban mods are admins
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 16, 2013, 02:31:36 AM
No. Majority votes help in our case because our admins aren't here much, L.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 16, 2013, 05:25:44 AM
Hm. What sparked this idea, exactly?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 16, 2013, 05:39:35 AM
I was thinking about how the whole Sparkx thing could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: L on October 16, 2013, 01:00:38 PM
A majority vote to demote a mod is fine, that way if people feel like they are doing a terrible job, then an admin can demote them, but only admins should be allowed to ban mods

If you really want a mod banned, when Sea King comes back, talk to him about suggesting to add a third admin, namely me, to take over since him and Neptune are not on very often
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 16, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
That is assuming he comes back any time soon. That's one of our problems: He's not on nearly as often anymore. Kinda hard to do when life is so...hampering. While I understand what you are saying, the problem lies in the fact that we cannot contact either admin.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Patsy Dragon on October 16, 2013, 10:12:08 PM
Promote a new admin from the lot of you - that is the best, long-term suggestion I can give. Having a global mod that can demote other mods (whether by themselves or with another mod) only prolongs the inevitable promotion of an admin. If SK or Neptune are going to mess with the CP to modify permissions, they might as well bring a new admin to the team. From there, that new admin can oversee mod discussions and make the final calls, along with fixing up forum organization, banning/suspending members when need be, etc.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 16, 2013, 11:12:37 PM
And, since neither Sea nor Neptune come on anymore, how exactly is this promotion going to happen?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 16, 2013, 11:22:55 PM
I PMed Sea to promote me to Mod since I've been on here every day this year. Does that upset anyone?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 17, 2013, 03:31:58 AM
Not at all.   As long as you uphold all the boyscout rules.        Honest. True.  Silly little outfit.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 17, 2013, 04:34:00 AM
I don't even need an outfit period! I can do the job in anything or nothing! I am the future! (If you guys are OK with that...)
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Star Magician on October 17, 2013, 05:11:52 AM
If I had to choose someone, it would be you or Soltur, so I'm totally OK with it (I would personally hate being a mod, just sayin').
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 17, 2013, 05:22:53 AM
You'd not make a bad one. I am shocked by the vote of confidence I've got so far... It's kind of touching to know you people trust me. The only reason I'd choose myself over Soltur is that, right now, Soltur cannot be online as much as me. Heck, I check this place five times as much as I check my email.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Patsy Dragon on October 18, 2013, 04:59:11 AM
And, since neither Sea nor Neptune come on anymore, how exactly is this promotion going to happen?

You'll have to wait for it, unfortunately. But, this is the only real solution that comes to the forefront when it comes to handling mod problems. Then again, with the exception of what happened with Sparky, do you really anticipate mods violating member trust and abusing their powers? o.o
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 18, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
I don't.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 19, 2013, 05:48:20 AM
We need more than just one mod. Personally, I don't really see myself as mod material since I'm not on as often what with work and school. However, I appreciate everybody's thought that I could be a good mod. :)
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 19, 2013, 02:57:11 PM
I don't even need an outfit period! I can do the job in anything or nothing!
:51:  No being mod if you won't wear clothes.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 19, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
I will always at least wear something, rest easy knowing that, Cheese.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on October 20, 2013, 05:40:58 AM
I don't even need an outfit period! I can do the job stark naked!

 :51: No being mod if you wear clothes.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 20, 2013, 05:44:30 AM
Honestly, I think Scorpio should be the mod. He's better-suited for it (no pun intended.).
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Star Magician on October 20, 2013, 05:45:05 AM
:51: No being mod if you wear clothes.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 20, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
Sorry, Star. The people say pants are a must. On the bright side, you most likely have a camera in my bedroom.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on October 20, 2013, 03:30:50 PM
No that's mine. Star has it in your bathroom.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 20, 2013, 05:44:53 PM
... Yay..? Like I'm not paranoid enough already...
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 12:28:04 AM
Shall we get back on topic? I have an idea: Post below if you wish to be a mod (and for what reason) and then, we can have a vote on it. Sound fair?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 21, 2013, 01:34:54 AM
Good idea, Soltur.

I think I should be a mod because I've been on every day this year, I report spam topics when I find them, and I try to play peacemaker when things get heated.

I don't think I could be the only mod going, though. I nominate Soltur to be the other mod so that we have two. If I do something you guys don't like, (or more realisticly, put something in the wrong place because of my phone) Soltur could fix it, and vice versa. I know he cannot be on as often as I am, but I think the two of us would be fair, good mods.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: L on October 21, 2013, 02:04:38 AM
I wouldn't mind being a mod, I have been before on forums far more active than this one

But I suspect my chances are really low
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 02:05:43 AM
I believe I would be a good mod because I am on as often as possible and I am actually quite easy to reach. If I do become a mod, I would give you an email address at which you may easily contact me. I try to ensure that we stay on topic and I try to calm things down when tension is high. I also am willing to help you (or at least attempt to help you) with any problem that you may have.

L, why exactly do you want to be a mod?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: L on October 21, 2013, 02:07:55 AM
I believe I would be a good mod because I am on as often as possible and I am actually quite easy to reach. If I do become a mod, I would give you an email address at which you may easily contact me. I try to ensure that we stay on topic and I try to calm things down when tension is high. I also am willing to help you (or at least attempt to help you) with any problem that you may have.

L, why exactly do you want to be a mod?
I would actually prefer more to be an admin so I can get this place orderly, but I know such a thing is hard to obtain since Admins rarely trust people with such things, so I would like to be a mod just so I can contribute more to the forum than I have done, I am also willing to ban all the spam bot accounts (I already know all of them)
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 02:10:41 AM
Okay, that'd actually help a lot!

I'd be fine with being a mod or being an admin. I wouldn't care either way. I just want to be able to help more.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on October 21, 2013, 02:46:06 AM
I wouldn't care either way. I just want to be able to help more.
However I probably won't be a good mod so whatevs.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Star Magician on October 21, 2013, 05:15:43 AM
I'm too lenient to be a mod, but I'm a good conflict mediator.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 01:41:06 PM
So, does anybody else want to try to be a mod/admin on here? What would be a good mod ceiling number?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 21, 2013, 03:37:10 PM
I think two is the number we need. No more, no less.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 04:22:42 PM
I was thinking, for voting purposes, we could go with three.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 21, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
Definitely no higher than three.                       Aren't Maegra and Legend mods?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 04:33:49 PM
Yes they are, but how often are they on? We need mods/admins that are on daily or nearly daily, not sporadically. Now, don't get me wrong, I have absolute respect for Maegra  and Legend, but if you ask me, a mod or admin should be on as often as possible.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 21, 2013, 07:25:05 PM
That's why I think Soltur and I sould be mods. Then we'd have four of them running around and righting wrongs.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 21, 2013, 11:09:52 PM
I'd go for an odd number. Better for voting.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 21, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
I don't mean him, you, or me, I'm saying you AND me could be new mods.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 12:15:45 AM
Still an even number. If we, as mods, have to vote for something, an odd number would be ideal.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 12:41:03 AM
Hmm... Maybe Wolfite? He's very different from myself, so he'd be a good choice. Maybe Nyran, Will, or Ivan?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 22, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
Definitely keep Maegra and Legend.    And three new mods wouldn't be terrible.  But you need people who are on here.        I nominate someone to clear off really old members and spambots.   That's what I would do in my extreme OCD-ness. 
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Soltur and I would both do that. I don't think anyone else is on here as much as the two of us.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 22, 2013, 01:29:57 AM
But that still leaves it at an even number.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 01:48:07 AM
I suggested Wolfite for the third.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 01:56:09 AM
I didn't even see that post.

I'd say that he'd be a good choice. I too nominate him.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 02:00:40 AM
So Me, Soltur, and Wolfite. Any objections?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 03:13:42 AM
None. I already emailed Sea this morning, but no response. I may try emailing Neppy (assuming he has one shown) to get to Sea.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Merc on October 22, 2013, 03:40:36 AM
I vote for Legend and Maegra getting promoted to admin rank.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 03:44:11 AM
Mind if I ask why?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 03:46:36 AM
Because it would be good to have more active admins, and they're the best choice.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Merc on October 22, 2013, 03:52:25 AM
Because it would be good to have more active admins, and they're the best choice.
Yeah, this.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 03:55:16 AM
Okay, just checking the reason.
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Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 04:27:53 AM
I'm Surprised I didn't see this sooner, I check the site every day just not every topic. I'm fine with being a third mod, personally though if L becomes an admin i'd probably never come back
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 04:32:07 AM
And why would you never come back?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 04:38:06 AM
probably because I think L would abuse his powers of admin and run this forums into the ground.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 04:43:38 AM
Fair enough. Now, how do we present this to Sea?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 04:46:21 AM
Soltur and Wolfite, you two each send him a PM asking to be a mod, then, we hope he reads this topic.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 04:47:21 AM
I tried that once before don't know if he ever got it
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Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 04:54:59 AM
Well, I already sent mine,  but he's not been on in ages. Whatever happens, we need to support eachother for this to work out. Deal?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 04:58:33 AM
I sent mine as well (the last thing I sent to him was an email for something else on this site). I'll do what I can, just send me a swapnote I check those more than my emails if anything is up. (just make sure I have your friendcode also lately I've been getting swapnotes from someone not in my contact list)
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 05:02:26 AM
WTF's a "Swapnote?"
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Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 05:03:49 AM
3DS app for the Nintendo 3DS
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Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
Don't have one. I'm poor.
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Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 05:14:46 AM
well soltur has one so just have him message me on swapnote
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Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 05:21:07 AM
Could we just PM eachother? (Translation: Take pity on the low-tech, poor guy! Please?)
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Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 22, 2013, 05:24:16 AM
I vote for Legend and Maegra getting promoted to admin rank.
I'm totally up for that.

And I totally support the three of you as mods as long as you clear up the super old members and spambots 'cause they annoy the poo out of me
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 05:28:26 AM
We can do nothing about the bots who do not post, and I will never ban a member for not being on in a while. What? Do you want me to undo our member count because half of it is lies?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 22, 2013, 06:27:00 AM
I will PM you, Scorp and Tk, let's take pity on him.
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Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 02:41:41 PM
Please? I have a very adorable face...
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Post by: Aether on October 22, 2013, 09:18:12 PM
You should remove the accounts that have been made but have made 0 posts, and are at least a month old.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 22, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
Again, I think only admins can delete accounts, but maybe ban them?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on October 22, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
SEA YOU'RE ON RESPOND TO THIS AND CHOOSE THOSE WHO ARE DEEMED WORTHY
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: TakoshiWolfite on October 22, 2013, 11:16:54 PM
Or ironically he'll find us unworthy and demote/ban us for attempting this...oh well.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on October 22, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
Ban all the unjust and slay the unworthy!!!
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on October 23, 2013, 01:37:03 AM
If you ban someone, doesn't that prevent them from returning with that email?     I don't know that banning would be good if we could just delete them.


You should remove the accounts that have been made but have made 0 posts, and are at least a month old.

Maybe more like a year.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on October 23, 2013, 03:36:02 AM
I don't know if a mod can delete accounts, I think they can only ban.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on October 23, 2013, 03:37:25 AM
So, myself, TakoshiWolfite, and Scorpio for mods? Any objections before I take this to our king?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Will on November 03, 2013, 08:03:44 PM
no problem with me.

hope the forum is alright.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on November 04, 2013, 02:22:57 AM
I have let Sea know. I am just waiting for him to have time to check.
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Post by: Scorpio on November 04, 2013, 02:55:33 AM
Same here. I was hoping he'd get on to see this a bit ago, but he eithet didn't have time, or he was sick again. I really hope he was busy. Bad stuff could happen if he keeps getting sick like that, and I don't want that for him.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Tetsu on November 04, 2013, 02:57:02 AM
I hope he didn't get sick. He really should talk to a doctor with an actual license about that. *looking at Scorpio meaningfully*
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on November 04, 2013, 03:51:23 AM
What could you mean by that?
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Post by: Tetsu on November 04, 2013, 03:59:44 AM
Take a look at Aether's sig and you'll see.
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Post by: Scorpio on November 04, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
See what? I didn't do anything wrong... *Hides scalpel behind back* I sure don't do anything... Unnatural...
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Post by: TakoshiWolfite on November 05, 2013, 01:56:23 AM
...yet
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Post by: Scorpio on November 05, 2013, 03:10:38 AM
Silence! Or I will not share my wealth when I'm famous!
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Post by: Star Magician on November 05, 2013, 05:13:03 AM
If you say so, Mid-boss. :P
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Post by: Scorpio on November 05, 2013, 05:53:31 AM
DO NOT CALL ME "MID-BOSS!" MY NAME IS SCORPIO!
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Post by: Will on November 05, 2013, 08:06:32 AM
can we keep track of topic plz.

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Post by: Tetsu on November 05, 2013, 01:11:23 PM
So, all we need to do now is wait.

Now back to the original topic in hand: Banning of mods/admins. How else can we go about it?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Aether on November 05, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
I ban everyone.  
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on November 05, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
See what? I didn't do anything wrong... *Hides scalpel behind back* I sure don't do anything... Unnatural...
Kinky.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on November 05, 2013, 11:42:47 PM
It's not kinky if it's in the name of science.

Also, we should have it so that mods have to vote to ban each other, or an admin can just do it whenever they feel is appropriate.
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: CHEESE4ALL on November 06, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
It's not kinky if it's in the name of science.
;)



Also, we should have it so that mods have to vote to ban each other, or an admin can just do it whenever they feel is appropriate.
Isn't that the system now?  Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Ok, I had an idea...
Post by: Scorpio on November 07, 2013, 12:07:56 AM
No, Sparkx banned Legend withou anyone else's say so.