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Title: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 11, 2014, 06:28:10 AM
I don't know why the first one was closed, there's still more to discussion.

So lets start with the remaining characters, what's you're remaining character guesses?

Mine are for veteran fighters, Ganon, Wario, Meta-Knight, Game and Watch, Falco

Newcomers, I'm going to guess Robin as a Fire Emblem character, there's probably a few others, but for now I'm going to go with Robin.

Possible dlc, if they did it, Mewtwo, and Isaac would be good ideas for dlc characters.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Merc on June 11, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
Pacman and Game & Watch we're confirmed last night in a smash bros developer conference.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 12, 2014, 02:16:02 AM
Pacman and Game & Watch we're confirmed last night in a smash bros developer conference.

Actually just Pacman was, unfortunately Game and Watch was a mere Cameo in his trailer, which kind of sucked, it would be nice to see some veterans revealed at E3, I hope that Game and Watch is one of them and that he's like a teaser for a wave of Veteran reveals.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on June 12, 2014, 04:07:54 AM
............... Pacman ?
I'm completely baffled, disturbed, disappointed, maybe even enraged.
 :02:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on June 12, 2014, 04:58:14 AM
Why? It's awesome! Also, Mr. G&W is all but confirmed.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 12, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
More characters I don't care about. Yay.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on June 14, 2014, 01:07:44 PM
They wouldn't put G&W in the trailer without addin him, I think. Oh and don't forget they also announced Mii Fighters
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 19, 2014, 01:44:04 PM
Jigglypuff....
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on June 24, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
Now that I've actually seen Pacman's trailer, I'm not as upset. Still though, there is so many actual Nintendo characters that should have had that slot.
Even Lonlon Ranch Cow would've been more fitting in my opinion.

It also took me hours to realize that the only real relevance he had is that they were in the arcades together. It made it less infuriating, but eh...

I will give them one thing, they replaced the character that I want out most from this line up. (Was Wii-fit trainer since well Wii-Fit)
Even ROB deserves the slot more. He might be a stupid peripheral and a lame fighter, but he did save Nintendo.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on July 04, 2014, 03:44:07 AM
Actually after thinking about it for a while, I came to the conclusion that Pacman actually might be a cool character to use.

Alright guys, at this time I'd like to show my prediction of the final roster, in the first pic is all the likely characters that are either already announced or they are characters that have yet to be confirmed, but still might be in.

Ok now my second pic is my roster prediction.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on July 04, 2014, 02:05:17 PM
Idk why i spent so long deciphering that but in the prediction Falco Jiggles and Robert are out. And how was that viewed 66 times
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on July 14, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Lucina and Robin from Fire Emblem and Captain Falcon are confirmed.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on July 14, 2014, 04:39:14 PM
And chrom is either an assist trophy or part of a final smash
You can play as female robin
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on July 15, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
They're doing it right. Just sayin'

Still wanna see Shulk or Dixie Kong...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on August 20, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
I don't want Dixie in, Donkey Butt don't deserve another character, especially a monkey, it would be fine if it was King K Rool, but I don't see that happening.

Besides we have enough females added, there's no point in adding Dixie, especially considering how ugly she is.

Same goes with that blue girl from Starfox, yuck.

I do find Shulk to be somewhat interesting, we'll have to see what happens with that.

As for Isaac, if he's not in, I'm throwing my Dark Dawn game out the window in rage, I might lose it, but who cares because if Isaac isn't playable in this game it could potentially cause me to somewhat hate Golden Sun and what it has become.

Ridley sounds like a good idea for a new character, I'm kind of hoping it turns out that he is playable this time, he'd be a awesome Newcomer, and Metroid deserves a new character instead of Starfox or Donkey Butt.

Mewtwo better return, Sakurai got us hyped for it and he did mention about not liking creating false hype and that's exactly what not having Mewtwo is.

Its bad enough Charizard is the only good Pokémon in and they have to add all those stupid Rattatas and that's exactly what Greninja, Jigglypuff, Pikachu, and Lucario are, they're Rattatas.

As for Earthbound, well I hate Ness, just keep Lucas, or better yet both, there are other stupid characters they could cut instead like ROB, Ice Climers, Game and Watch, Jigglypuff, Falco, and Snake, of course of all of those Snake is only one who actually isn't stupid, he will be missed too, but I just can't see four 3rd parties in this game.

Same goes for Wolf, he's a bad guy, which is better than some stupid bird, I hate birds in Nintendo games.

If there really is another Kid Icarus character, then please be Medusa, Dark Pit would be a stupid idea, e should just be a costume for Pit, and there's the fact he appeared with Palutena in that trailer at E3, well that doesn't mean he's going to be a new character or he'd be confirmed, hopefully he's just hinting that maybe Medusa is another character, after all we still haven't seen her appear in any form and you'd think she'd at least show up in some sort of cameo appearance.

Dark Pit should just be a costume for Pit, next thing you know Shadow Link will be put in, just no.

These dark ones should just be color swaps and costumes, like Dark Link, Dark Samus, Dark Pit, all should be costumes.

About Samus keep in mind like Waluigi in Brawl, she could still be a color swap/costume for Samus.

Maybe they're saving all these dark one costumes to be revealed when Medusa is revealed?

Btw I don't think we're getting dlc in these games, I don't think Sakurai wants to do it, he seems very reluctant about it.

Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on August 20, 2014, 08:26:42 PM
Besides we have enough females added, there's no point in adding Dixie, especially considering how ugly she is.
You know somethin's up when people expect a monkey to be sexualized

he did mention about not liking creating false hype and that's exactly what not having Mewtwo is.
Didn't they just make false hype with the Chrom dood


Anyway, Nintendo found a way to get some more customers
(http://i.imgur.com/v0CjFhe.jpg)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on August 21, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
You know somethin's up when people expect a monkey to be sexualized
*Clearing throat* 
(http://gamecola.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/candy_kong.jpg)  :78:

Even so, I don't mind there being more females in game. They don't need to look hot to be a good character or fun to play either.
Though I am not very partial to Dixie either. (Just never cared for DK's crew.)
Krystal is the only Starfox character that I could see them giving a unique fighting style.
Ridley seems too big to be a character, he doesn't have much ingame movesets to work with for fleshing out for Smash Bros. Besides him though, there aren't really any Metroid characters. Maybe someone from Hunters but I don't see that happening ever and wouldn't lobby for it.

About the only things I agree with you on are ROB being kicked (since I dislike him more than e deserves) and
the palette swaps for "Dark" characters.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 21, 2014, 06:01:02 AM
Anyway, Nintendo found a way to get some more customers
(http://i.imgur.com/v0CjFhe.jpg)
They gotta attract that "mature" audience somehow... Gah, why does Samus, of all characters, have to get this sexualization? It makes me sad... I love Samus T_T

I agree that there needs to be more female characters... not just in Smash though. We need more good female lead characters in general. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on August 22, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Naw, it's not pure sexualization, those were actual costumes from credits of 2 metroid games, i'll look for the pics later.

So this is from Metroid Fusion:
(http://i.imgur.com/3ChTtru.jpg)


And this is from Metroid Zero Mission:
(http://i.imgur.com/GvVaxq2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gie4fXj.png)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 23, 2014, 06:11:30 AM
A while after posting that, I remembered they had Samus in a bikini in the very first NES game too... So... nevermind. Lol.

Now my main thing is why doesn't she have more muscle? I mean, after all the things she's done, she should be ripped. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on August 23, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
I guess pew-pewing doesn't make you very fit
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 24, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
That Screw Attack and that speed running thing in Super Metroid sure would though...

Also, I don't want Ridley to be a Smash character. His abilities would have to be changed and degraded so much from what he can do in Metroid games, that it would look and feel ridiculous playing as him in Smash.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on August 24, 2014, 09:12:42 PM
Ridley can stick to being a boss in the 3DS minigame thing
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 26, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
There's another leak out there that shows Bowser Jr., Shulk, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Ganondorf and Duck Hunt Dog as the troll character. This one is different because there's actually video this time. They were removed from Youtube by Nintendo too.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on August 26, 2014, 09:37:26 PM
I disregard this leak, the Newcomers in it are just ridiculous.

Too many Mario characters, we don't need Bowser Jr and Dr Mario should definitely just be a costume for Mario.

Same goes for Dark Pit, that's a costume, a playable character is just a waste, I'd rather have Medusa playable.

Duck Hunt Dog should just be a Assist Trophy, that thing is just as stupid as ROB was in Brawl, we're supposed to see a stupid character like ROB cut for something more better, not something just as stupid.

I really don't care about seeing Shulk on this list because this is probably my least favorite leak since Gematsu.

Also Mewtwo isn't there, that's stupid.

This better not be the final roster, because I picked Medusa, Ridley and Isaac as the final new characters with Mewtwo returning and that will happen, believe that.


Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on August 26, 2014, 11:54:45 PM
Doesn't sound unbelievable to me. Sounds like it was mostly just showing off costumes and assist trophies.

Bowser Jr. ? Hmm, if he's got the Graffiti Brush he'd probably be pretty unique and fun. Agree that there are too many Mario characters already though, probably another assist.

Duck Hunt Dog guaranteed to never be a playable fighter. Just trust me on that Agatio.
Mewtwo probably won't return, but you never know. Just don't put too much hope in it, yeah ?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 27, 2014, 05:57:13 AM
The video had Bowser Jr. in the Koopa Car. And it was (alleged) gameplay footage during battle.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 29, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Shulk confirmed.
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSYVSuM8YPSwuA)

This makes me quite happy. Oh and y'all need to play Xenoblade. It's easily the Wii's best game imo. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on August 29, 2014, 05:03:55 PM
Still that doesn't quite mean the leak is completely accurate.

I think it maybe somewhat accurate but I think there is more to it than what we're seeing, perhaps eve a few more characters than its showing, after all I can't see Mewtwo being left out if this leak is real and we're getting all these Mario characters, this game could easily have six Pokémon.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on August 29, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
Thank you shulk for giving me a new pic
Oh and I might buy the Xenoblade chronicles
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 30, 2014, 01:11:28 AM
Thank you shulk for giving me a new pic
Oh and I might buy the Xenoblade chronicles
OMG When I first saw his swimsuit costume, I lol'd hard.

And if you do, prepare for a very long game :D
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 01, 2014, 02:23:46 AM
I love how they named it "I guess we have no choice".
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 01, 2014, 07:58:49 AM
Who named what that?

Anyway, still see no signs of Jigglypuff, so I'm not buying it next month. Just sayin'
Eh, I'll probably end up getting the Wii U version though. Just thinking about playing Smash on the 3DS makes my hands hurt. I can't even play a passive RPG like Pokčmon or Disgaea without that system cramping my hands :/
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 01, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Nintendo named the Shulk reveal that, cuz of the gematsu leak.

There's apparently a new 3ds coming out anyway so i'll just wait for that one before i buy any smash bros
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 04, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
(http://1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/41/42/65804c26178dda21c41d56078d845f1c-zero-suit-wario.jpg)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on September 07, 2014, 05:02:11 AM
Seven days...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Nyran on September 08, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
not even gonna lie.

All the hype has killed any excitement I may have once had.

Even that wasn't that much.

I just want this damn game to come out so the internet shuts up about it.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 08, 2014, 05:19:02 AM
not even gonna lie.

All the hype has killed any excitement I may have once had.

Even that wasn't that much.

I just want this damn game to come out so the internet shuts up about it.
This. What makes it worse is that the hype train is being conducted by Nintendo themselves.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on September 08, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
All I know is, I'm gonna get the game. They didn't have to say anything about it even.
It was already decided.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 10, 2014, 12:43:27 PM
Y'know, maybe fans' obsessions with existing franchises like Smash Bros. is what's preventing Nintendo from trying their hands at making new ones...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 11, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
Yeah, like a Super Smash Racing
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 11, 2014, 07:32:42 AM
Or Legend of Peach or Star Kong or Pokčmon Crossing.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on September 11, 2014, 09:09:31 AM
Y'know, maybe fans' obsessions with existing franchises like Smash Bros. is what's preventing Nintendo from trying their hands at making new ones...
This is a very true issue. It hasn't stopped them completely though. I think the main issue is more their own obsession with Mario.

Like Star Fox Adventures and Kirby's Epic Yarn. They could have been new series, probably decent ones.
They have still come out with new stuff though. Like Animal Crossing and Pikmin, they're even coming out with some new stuff now like Splatoon. Even brought back a largely forgotten series, Kid Icarus, fairly recently.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 11, 2014, 09:17:47 AM
Y'know what? One of them Splatoon squid girls should've been a Smash Bros. character. Just sayin'

But Splatoon is kinda the only one though. AC and Pikmin have been around for over 10 years now (ffs I'm old, I remember reading about them in Nintendo Power). Mario is kinda dead to me at this point, until they get their ambition back and try to top Mario 64/Sunshine with a new Mario adventure game. Though 3D World does look kinda fun... it's just not what I've wanted personally.

Edit: the leak with the Duck Hunt Dog was real. It's all being confirmed now since some people in Japan got their copies of the game early somehow. Friggen' Dark Pit... Really?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: J on September 13, 2014, 06:17:27 AM
Looks like the leak news was mentioned already.  Bowser Jr. is one of the leaked characters.  The Koopaling skins complete with voice over and car differences was a nice touch.
(http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/8/8b/Bowser_Jr._SSB4.png)

Apparently Nintendo has at least two more characters that weren't included in the leak.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 13, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
damn how many characters are gonna be in the game
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 15, 2014, 01:23:36 AM
Jigglypuff has been confirmed. I can now rest easy.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 15, 2014, 02:22:24 AM
I want to get the Smash bros when it comes out but I think I'll wait for the new 3ds to come out -_-

NINTENDO WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 15, 2014, 02:43:33 AM
The Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance were treated the same way. They were only out for 3 years before the next handheld was announced -.-
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on September 16, 2014, 12:04:07 PM
Duck Hunt dog... I don't get it.  :04:  I can't believe it even now, but ah well.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 16, 2014, 11:54:59 PM
There was a theory that they wanted a thing on a thing like banjo and kazooie but since copyrights they went with Duck Hunt dog

On the bright side there was a leak for Bowser Jr. in his clown copter thing
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on September 19, 2014, 02:38:01 AM
Not SSB4 related, but is related to Smash in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frv15PY5fdw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frv15PY5fdw)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 19, 2014, 09:56:53 AM
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._4 (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._4) if you want the character roster spoilerz.

Not SSB4 related, but is related to Smash in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frv15PY5fdw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frv15PY5fdw)
Cute. Still not a fan of his battle theme they used though...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on September 27, 2014, 06:33:15 AM
Here's one last Super Smash Bros trailer for hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqsVbiI7Mrc&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqsVbiI7Mrc&feature=player_detailpage)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on September 27, 2014, 01:49:43 PM
Here's one last Super Smash Bros trailer for hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqsVbiI7Mrc&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqsVbiI7Mrc&feature=player_detailpage)
oh, one of my ex's erotic videos
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 27, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
Idk why they decided to add Dark Pit. I don't know if his moveset is technically different from Pit's, but they could've done a more unique final smash instead of using Zelda's
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 28, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
I wish they picked Hades or Viridi instead. Dark Pit was a booooooring character in KI:U. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on September 29, 2014, 02:12:49 AM
I wish they picked Hades or Viridi instead. Dark Pit was a booooooring character in KI:U. Just sayin'

I totally agree with both those characters.

Still I prefer to use Dark Pit over Pit, Team Dark always beats Team Light, in which I bet this is why he's in, its because of that Light vs Dark thing from Kid Icarus Uprising isn't it?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 29, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
How naive to think that the darkness will always overcome the light.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 30, 2014, 07:16:57 AM
There needs to be more dark heroes and villians of light. Just sayin'

Hades is one of the best villians I've ever encountered. KI:U fans would have loved him to be in Smash too, I'm sure.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on October 01, 2014, 01:42:58 AM
I wish Duck Hunt Dog got an official trailer or something, but I guess the ones you unlock are supposed to be secret (until someone gets them and posts tons of videos on youtube)

Oh and to unlock all the characters, you need to play 120 games total. A dood is unlocked every 10 games. First guy is Ness and last guy is Jigglypuff
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on October 02, 2014, 02:03:21 AM
I wish Duck Hunt Dog got an official trailer or something, but I guess the ones you unlock are supposed to be secret (until someone gets them and posts tons of videos on youtube)

Oh and to unlock all the characters, you need to play 120 games total. A dood is unlocked every 10 games. First guy is Ness and last guy is Jigglypuff

I wish Bowser Jr got a trailer too, I thought it sucked Shulk got one and not these two.

Especially considering Game and Watch was hinted as a returning character in Pacman's trailer and Lucina was confirmed in Robin's trailer and Dark Pit was hinted in Palutena's trailer.

Super Mario Bros theme trailer including Bowser, Mario, Luigi and Peach, Bowser Jr joins the battle, show Dr Mario the same way they did Dark Pit, and of course show Duck Hunt since Super Mario Bros comes with Duck Hunt in one game, thanks a lot leaker, I wanted to see Bowser Jr's reveal and you ruined it.

So one day left until Super Sash Bros 3ds, I'm going to spend this final day playing Melee and Brawl, then finally Friday the moment we all been waiting for, I'm getting up early in the morning to go get it, have a coffee at Starbucks, then start playing it all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VmJ2J8lAVQQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VmJ2J8lAVQQ)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 08, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Wii U version comes out on November 21. Just sayin'

I hope they announce some new features for it because I'm still not impressed by the 3DS version...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on October 14, 2014, 02:20:31 AM
Sucks Ice Climbers got cut because Sakurai was too stupid to realize your could lower their FPS to 30 to compensate for the 3DS.

Disappointed that Isaac did not make it, making it all the more difficult to get Golden Sun more noticed, and causing a 4th game to be made all the more unlikely.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 14, 2014, 06:00:17 AM
They could have also used 8-bit Ice Climbers as playable for teh lulz. Just sayin'

Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on October 14, 2014, 11:46:27 PM
Just sayin' is Star's catch phrase.  :tongue:

My catch phrase is "it'll be a good one", lol.

Star, it is kind of weird they didn't just have single Ice Climer and we could switch between the two since we have the technology of alternate costumes, I would of rather had that than that stupid robot wasting space, ugh I wanted him gone.

I'll let Jigglypuff slide, I actually found that Lucario is pretty good in this game as far as Pokémon go, and actually my favorite Pokémon to beat up is Greninja, besides Mewtwo will be dlc, believe that.

Anyway after playing this game, which characters have become your mains?

Mine are Ganondorf and Ludwig

I'm lovin that Warlock Blade!

Also if dlc does happen, who would you like to see added?

I'd like to see Ridley, Mewtwo, Isaac and King K Rool as dlc characters.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 16, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
Haven't played it yet, but my mains will probably be Jigglypuff, Peach and Sonic. Maybe Shulk and Palutena, depending on how much I like playing them. Depending on how good solo Zelda is, maybe her as well. I always liked playing as Zelda rather than Sheik, but she was always too underpowered.

Anyway, the reason there's no Ice Climbers is because of the 3DS version. They insisted on making the cast identical on the 3DS and Wii U, but since the 3DS was never powerful enough to handle multiple characters or alternates/transformations, they had to cut them. Same with Zelda/Shiek and Zero Suit Samus.

I can't help but think the Wii U version will be kinda gimped because of how they made the game for both systems. Oh well, we'll see when it's released.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on October 17, 2014, 01:59:20 AM
I saw a Zelda game, dae say she's buffed pretty well now that there's no ledge guarding and she just spams up b
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 22, 2014, 07:46:27 AM
Ledge guarding was stupid anyway. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on October 22, 2014, 09:14:55 AM
What's ledge guarding ?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 22, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
Say you knocked your opponent off the side of the stage, and they're trying to jump back to it. You jump off the side and grab the ledge before they get there so they can't grab it. That's ledge/edge guarding.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on October 22, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
Well... I see. I guess I've never played with anyone who would think to do something so... rude.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 23, 2014, 07:46:51 AM
It's a dick move, and it breaks recovery potential for each character, so it's good it was removed.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 24, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Anyone get around to watching this yet?

Wii U - Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 50-Fact Extravaganza (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BBGzfw0pQ#ws)

Holy crap there's a lot of new stuff... And Mewtwo is going to be free DLC for those who get both Smash games in 2015.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on October 25, 2014, 03:05:40 AM
Yeah but that means I need to somehow convince my parents to get a 3ds AND a Wii U... luckily I think my dad is thinking of buying one, he asked me what the price was for one
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 25, 2014, 07:43:26 AM
Good luck with that :p

I'm mostly looking forward to that stage builder now. Some epic troll stages will be made. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on October 25, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
When you browse through everyone's maps

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/hSbE0.gif)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 26, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
Yeah, looking forward to that lol...

My stages would be made to just be annoying to people, like in Brawl, I had one that was a square, but you could only play inside it, meaning no-one could get KO'd. Then, I'd make the items all soccer balls and green shells only XD
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on October 26, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
Green shells red shells blue shells bananas bobombs snorlax assist
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on November 01, 2014, 11:00:47 AM
Okay, the Smash fanbase officially really irritates me now. They're some of the most whiny fanboyish people I've ever seen on the internet...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on November 01, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
Maybe they're just really glad to live their childhood again by using their favorite game characters to beat the crap out of others
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on November 02, 2014, 05:47:05 PM
Did you guys know that Tharja is a scrapped trophy in Super Smash Bros 3ds?

What I don't understand is if they are to do such a thing, then at least make Lucina's alt trophy from completing All Star mode the Black color swap based off her.

Anyway, yeah, drawing stages sounds like fun, I wonder what to draw?

They should have the Mario Paint music in the new stage builder if its drawing.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on November 03, 2014, 06:13:58 AM
Oh god, that music was awful. It's bringing back bad memories now. just sayin'

Maybe they're just really glad to live their childhood again by using their favorite game characters to beat the crap out of others
Some people take it a bit too far though.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 07, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
Has anyone else here played Smash for Wii U yet? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on January 08, 2015, 04:26:51 AM
I have a few times. Still haven't gotten enough people together to do the 5-8 player smash yet.

I like it, it's a solid Smash Bros game. The roster is pretty good even though there are a few weird choices.
Really the only complaints I have about the game are the same as with the 3DS version.
The stages are probably the best aspect of the game, as some of them are really big and/or complex and help add variety.

I don't really feel like it was dumbed down to be the same as the 3DS version or anything like some worried about earlier on.

Again, my only real issues are the roster. Not the whole thing, as I find it to be fairly solid overall. It's more of how the end product is compared to what Sakurai was claiming.


1. Too many sword fighters, this is not Soul Calibur nor is it Samurai Shodown.
2. Sakurai said that they were cutting down/getting rid of the clone characters. Dark Pit, Lucina, Doctor Mario, Falco, Ganon.
3. Sakurai said they were trying to really make sure the characters were differentiated. See #3.
       Zelda, Sheik, and Dark Pit all have the same Final Smash. Fox & Falco still do as well.
4. Sakurai said that they were trying to only use characters that were from relevant series. Duck Hunt ? Pac Man ? (Mega Man to a lesser extent.)
5. Way too many Mario characters. (Six not including the characters who have their own series.)
6. Pac Man

Overall the game is not bad, and the new characters are fun to play. It's pretty, it runs good, and it's Smash Bros.
I think they ended up sacrificing roster space in the process of adding the alternate models for some characters (Bowser Jr.) and all those alternate movesets.
The movesets make me a little sad, as I think it's a great idea and is neat to play around with but I don't think it'll see much use so it feels like a waste.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 08, 2015, 05:59:58 AM
It took one whole year to make the new Star Fox stage. I think they should have put in more stages than just one in that time. As for characters, they ran out of time. Sakurai had a  bunch more that he couldn't put in the game that he wanted to. I hate Greninja, as he was forced on the team by Nintendo. That is all.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on January 09, 2015, 01:36:47 AM
Well Mario has a lot of recurring characters (well not rosalina she's just kind of thrown in recent games)

I read that Lucina was going to just be an alternate skin for Marth, but they just decided to fill up the roster and make her her own character. The model was already there and not a lot of animations seem to be changed, better a clone then nothin' eh? Seems that Alp guy is still just an alt skin tho

I'm starting to play a bit of Rob, neutral air op
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 15, 2015, 02:27:23 PM
I'm currently at about 640 trophies with just some of the hardest achievements still to get. I've done Classic mode with every character, but not All-Star yet. I hate the new classic mode, but I like what they've done with All-Star. I've done every Target Blast and Trophy Rush with every character because those are my favorite new modes.
My main for beating up computer players is unoriginal - Ike. I basically did everything with him, except I can't do the hard classic mode.
One thing that still frustrates me is that a lot of the single player modes are still affected by luck in regards to the random items that appear, but this time it's much, much worse due to the fact that you have to pay your valuable coins just to start some modes. I've lost a crapload on Crazy Orders multiple times just because a smash ball spawns next to my enemies...
Online, I don't do it much because my internet isn't all that fast, so it's pretty laggy, but I do alright. I actually have most wins with Yoshi, someone I never really used prior to this game. I mainly use Link, Yoshi and Shulk in Glory mode, Wario, Yoshi and Jigglypuff in Fun mode.

I don't really feel like it was dumbed down to be the same as the 3DS version or anything like some worried about earlier on.
Not that it was dumbed down, but that the 3DS's technical limitations prevented characters like Ice Climbers from returning. I don't know if that was actually true or not though.

1. Too many sword fighters, this is not Soul Calibur nor is it Samurai Shodown.
2. Sakurai said that they were cutting down/getting rid of the clone characters. Dark Pit, Lucina, Doctor Mario, Falco, Ganon.
3. Sakurai said they were trying to really make sure the characters were differentiated. See #3.
       Zelda, Sheik, and Dark Pit all have the same Final Smash. Fox & Falco still do as well.
4. Sakurai said that they were trying to only use characters that were from relevant series. Duck Hunt ? Pac Man ? (Mega Man to a lesser extent.)
5. Way too many Mario characters. (Six not including the characters who have their own series.)
6. Pac Man
I don't mind the sword fighters, it's just that Lucina was an unnecessary character, being almost exactly like Marth. I think that makes it feel like there are too many. Same with Dark Pit, but hey, it's not surprising to see him in Smash, given that Kid Icarus Uprising was made by the same team.
I agree about the final smashes. Why the hell doesn't Sheik use her harp? And Falco? Just give him the Arwing and Fox has the Landmaster. Fitting enough, right? I don't know about Dark Pit though.
Pac Man is still relevant. He has two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_and_the_Ghostly_Adventures_%28video_game%29) games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_and_the_Ghostly_Adventures_2) on the Wii U after all. Duck Hunt is definitely not relevant, but he's obviously a troll character. Mega Man could and should still be relevant because the franchise still has a lot of fans, but Capcom is Capcom. 'Nuff said. (Also, people have been asking for Mega Man since before Melee came out.) The least relevant character ever is easily R.O.B. Just sayin'
The thing that annoys the crap outta me is that there are too many characters with auto-counters. It's ridiculous. Why can't they just give these characters their own moves? Except Marth. I don't mind if he keeps it because he's the only one who's kept it since Melee.

Overall the game is not bad, and the new characters are fun to play. It's pretty, it runs good, and it's Smash Bros.
I think they ended up sacrificing roster space in the process of adding the alternate models for some characters (Bowser Jr.) and all those alternate movesets.
The movesets make me a little sad, as I think it's a great idea and is neat to play around with but I don't think it'll see much use so it feels like a waste.
More alternate skins are a good opportunity for DLC for the game, but I feel like they could go even further with the idea. Instead of just skins, they could be alternate forms of characters that have different stats with those alternate special movesets. For examples:
Link: OoT Adult Link with moves and stats more similar to melee, or classic Link (Link to the Past/Link Between Worlds-like).
Toon Link: Young Link from Melee (just not as crappy).
Pikachu, Jigglypuff: Their pre- and post-evolutions, obviously.
Olimar: Any of the space explorers instead of just Alph. I wanna be Louie or Brittany too...
Dr. Mario could just be a stronger alt. form of Mario.
Wire-frame Little Mac could be changed to being quicker, but lighter and weaker.
You get the idea.
The alternate movesets could actually be used this way. There's not much point in custom characters if you can't play with them online, not even in "For Fun". Plus, some of the single-player modes don't even allow them at all.


It took one whole year to make the new Star Fox stage. I think they should have put in more stages than just one in that time. As for characters, they ran out of time. Sakurai had a  bunch more that he couldn't put in the game that he wanted to. I hate Greninja, as he was forced on the team by Nintendo. That is all.
Ugh, I hate that Star Fox level too. It's so hard to see what's even happening most of the time. One year for that? Wow, what a waste.
Not too fond of Greninja either, but I didn't know that. That's really disappointing.

I'm starting to play a bit of Rob, neutral air op
R.O.B. always kicks my ass, whether its another player who's good using R.O.B. or just a computer player. He's annoying lol.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on January 17, 2015, 06:14:54 AM
I always play Super Smash Bros Wii U on Saturdays. #SmashSaturday

Although I been busy lately, with wrestling stuff.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on January 18, 2015, 02:55:29 AM
Those alternate forms are basically the clones that we got, I don't think we'll see that unless Project M hits Wii U

A dood was playin smash on my 3ds so i make him play for glory 1 on 1, hopin he would learn his lesson about bein so cocky beating a lvl 6 bot, but he ended up doin decently well and hey, my winrate went up at least
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 18, 2015, 11:09:03 AM
I couldn't see modders going that far with the alternate forms, tbh.

Lol, I've gone 2-0 with most of my Glory wins. Some people on there are just really bad...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on January 19, 2015, 06:05:33 PM
Then there's that one Marth that never let's me go back on the stage cuz i suck
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 27, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Forget everything I've said about For Glory. I got my ass kicked today. Wow.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on January 29, 2015, 03:03:55 AM
I think i've been gettin better. Not like perfect combo better but i've been losing a lot less
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on February 19, 2015, 01:32:38 PM
So, I got my ass handed to me by an Amiibo the other day. Holy crap... I made a monster out of my cousin's Pikachu Amiibo... It would insta-block almost every attack and immediately counter with a quick up-smash, even in the middle of multi-hit attacks like Shulk's smash attacks... so BS...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on February 22, 2015, 09:16:41 PM
there's a counter to everything, so ya just gotta believe in yourself

Got Smash4U so I've been playing that a bit. Wii controls are so weird, I'm glad i can use my 3ds to fight
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on February 28, 2015, 02:54:11 AM
I use the gamepad. Wish I could use a GC controller, but I don't want to pay out the ass for an adapter that only works for one game.

I did manage to beat that Amiibo though. To do it with Shulk, I had to use a custom one with 100+ power and some speed. I also beat it with Dedede, Wario and Villager.

Here's one of my Mii fighters :biggrin:
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzTDpimIyonuzoh)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on March 01, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
Wario
People can be good with Wario  ?!?! :08:    I'm incredibly jealous


That's a war face if I've ever seen one.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on March 01, 2015, 11:23:37 PM
Nubs get r3kt by Wario brea.
No but really, he's a troll character, so naturally, I use him a lot. I'm just used to him. I'll use him in For Glory and just dick around most the time. Sometimes, the other person will join me.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on March 06, 2015, 08:58:17 AM
A Golden Sun series symbol like on stages or victory screens was found in the code of SSB4. *Drops mic*
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on March 06, 2015, 02:30:30 PM
Wot???

Where did you find this info? I just tried Googling it, but found nothing.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on March 08, 2015, 05:53:45 AM
Proof or riot
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on March 08, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
Smash Wiki has it on their series symbol page, Smashapedia has it at the top of their GS page, and it was found with a file named DocMar.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on March 09, 2015, 09:19:53 AM
I found it O_O
Too bad the only GS references in SSBU are the two music tracks (the one from Brawl and DD's overworld theme)

You know what sucks though? There are still no Majora's Mask songs in SSB...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on March 11, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
Yes, but it's nowhere to be found in game. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on March 12, 2015, 11:48:01 PM
Idk, looking around I see a lot of fan-based icons, and the smashwiki's series symbol page doesn't show the golden sun anywhere. I still think it should be a non-swordsman tho
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on March 17, 2015, 08:29:13 AM
If Isaac was a character, I'd want his forward Smash to be a one-two hit, a weaker sword slash followed by Ragnarok. That would be GLORIOUS. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on March 19, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
I'm bored, gonna make specials

Up-B could be using Spire, basically it could become a rising platform that keeps going up that u jump off of
Side-B, Prob Move. A weaker version of his assist trophy?
Down-B is def Ragnarok
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on March 20, 2015, 01:01:27 AM
This is what I was thinking:

Side Smash- A normal attack followed by Ragnarok (it would be a bit toned-down compared to GS)
Up Smash- Growth would rise from the earth around him.
Down Smash- Quake. Duh. Would be slow with an AoE like Ike's B.

B- Similar to Monado Arts, Isaac would set a djinni. The element chosen would affect stats and the element of his specials and smash attacks.
Side B- Move, like you said
Up B(1)- A Venus Djinn (Echo) would appear and Isaac would do a jump strike, then follow with a rising attack.
Up B(2)- Retreat. He would vanish and reappear a far distance similiar to Palutena.
Down B- A spire would appear above, then crash downwards, similar to Thunder.

Final Smash could be various summons that are randomly picked, but all do similar things. Judgment, Catastrophe, Eclipse, or it could pick Megiddo.

The possibilities are endless though o-o
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on April 02, 2015, 10:43:02 PM
WE CAN VOTE CHARACTERS IN ::D:D:D:D:D:DD::D
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 03, 2015, 05:50:25 AM
Yeah, that sounds like bad thing to me. Popular vote is just going to make something stupid happen.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on April 03, 2015, 07:54:11 PM
It's not like it's the most popular votes that gets in though. More like Nintendo will see what characters are voted in a lot, and choose one they think will work. I mean if Dickbutt became most popular that doesn't mean they're forced to add him in (nintendo plz)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 04, 2015, 01:37:49 AM
Yeah, but they'll probably vote for a waste of space clone character like Roy or Chrom or Raichu or something.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 04, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
I voted for CD-i Link.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on April 07, 2015, 03:38:14 AM
I voted for AVGN
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 09, 2015, 05:07:37 AM
His taunts alone would bump the game's rating to M.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on April 15, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
According to http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32mcez/final_results_the_smash_bros_dlc_reddit_survey_is/

Isaac was 2nd place in the popularity contest, so we can't lose hope yet :D
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 15, 2015, 07:07:36 AM
Interesting. Though we have to remember that this is just one subcommunity of Smash fans, so I doubt Isaac is anywhere near the actual top. Shrek is probably higher overall.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on April 16, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
I don't think I'd mind if Shrek got in.

Mewtwo came out today, peeps are already evaluating him and apparently there's some neat teleport trick that I won't be able to accomplish
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on April 16, 2015, 06:17:39 AM
If Shrek actually was the top vote, I'd be laughing my ass off all day, and revel in the vast amounts of butthurt Smash/Nintendo fanboy trolling opportunities.

Played a bit of For Glory last night, mainly as Wario FTW. Mewtwos, Mewtwos everywhere... >.<
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on April 18, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Tis the true life of being a new character in a game. Everyone starts using u and then drops u off a week later
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on May 08, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
I've randomly found out that I'm good with Peach. I cannot find any consistent mains in this game for the life of me.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on May 09, 2015, 07:39:57 PM
I can never find any consistent mains in any game, fighting or otherwise

Started to play on stages that aren't omega, but still just legal stages and no items.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on May 10, 2015, 10:10:15 AM
No items, afraid to test your luck against others' ?  :57:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on May 22, 2015, 06:03:41 AM
Soccer balls are the best items. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on May 22, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
If only I could actually aim it at my enemy, I obviously need some soccer training practice

Speaking of that, when playing Sm4sh Wii U at my friend's place, I learned you can air dodge to cancel the side b, and we just kept doing that and only hitting each other with our balls of justice
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on May 23, 2015, 07:32:12 AM
If only I could actually aim it at my enemy, I obviously need some soccer training practice
Better yet, just make a custom stage like this:
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzS6h_nQb0iVG8t) (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHiWh6OYOw)

You won't have to worry about aiming your soccer balls. Just sayin'

P.S. See the timer in the upper right? It used to say 1:39:00, and that was a 1-stock survival match. :D
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on May 23, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
You went an hour and a half getting knocked around? I admire your tenacity

I think my 7-year old brother has played more smash than me by now -_-
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on May 24, 2015, 02:40:24 AM
Isaac has a logo, Roy and Ryu have songs. First post in a while, I know.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on May 24, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
I had an epic Bowser (me) vs. Donkey Kong (my bro) today. I KO'd him (and myself) twice by using the side B grab off the edge. I lost after that but it was still hilarious.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on May 25, 2015, 10:19:21 PM
I saw the sounds for Ryu and Roy, but I didn't see anything for Isaac's logo besides fakes
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on May 27, 2015, 07:10:37 AM
Isaac's symbol is on Smashapedia. Under the series symbol section and on the gs page,
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on May 28, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140911011827/ssb/images/0/0e/Golden_Sun_symbol.png)
This one ?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on May 29, 2015, 07:45:55 AM
Nope, the one from the file is on the Golden Sun universe page right at the top. Just Google Golden Sun Smashapedia and you'll find it,
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on May 30, 2015, 01:55:25 AM
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140915054233/ssb/images/2/28/Gssymbol2.png)
Okay, then it's this one ?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on May 30, 2015, 06:33:16 PM
Yes. That was the one from the file. Someone on Miiverse said they found our who the five unreachable Marios are. He said they are Lucas, Wolf, Roy, Ryu, and Isaac.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on May 30, 2015, 09:58:51 PM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If he does come out I will main him and then get bored of him
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on May 31, 2015, 02:46:32 AM
I hope it's true.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 11, 2015, 01:21:19 PM
Yes. That was the one from the file. Someone on Miiverse said they found our who the five unreachable Marios are. He said they are Lucas, Wolf, Roy, Ryu, and Isaac.

I would like to see all these characters!
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 13, 2015, 04:43:36 PM
Well it's partially correct so far. Roy and Ryu are confirmed now.

Ryu? I'm down for that. He has plenty of moves that work well for Smash.
Roy? They better change his moves somehow or else we'll have a triple clone problem...
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on June 15, 2015, 03:27:32 AM
Ryu seems really unique and Roy has the same specials but he seems different enough to not be too much of a Marth clone. Don't know if he still has the middler sweet spot tho
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on June 21, 2015, 02:01:32 PM
I've seen Reggie use Ryu, so the list is legit ?
Wonder how long it'll be before Isaac's errybody's added, and if anyone else is coming afterward.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 22, 2015, 06:23:45 AM
Many unofficial sources suggest that K. Rool is in the lead for the voting thing.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on June 23, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
As of last tally, on Reddit,  Ridley was number one, and Isaac was number two. Isaac also has a symbol in game. Wolf is also likely. A guy who predicted Roy, Mewtwo, Lucas, The Inkling costumes being GameStop pre orders, and another third party character said Wolf and Isaac are last DLC this year. Ice Climbers will be back next year, but totally different, another guy said.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on June 25, 2015, 11:45:16 PM
Why does everyone want Ridley all the time ? He's too big.
He's already in the game. Is it just because there aren't really any Metroid characters ?

Rool would be kind of neat, but I've never been much of a DK fan.
Really, I wouldn't mind anyone mentioned, and look forward to Lucas returning.
I liked him more than Ness, and now that I've been playing his game, I like'em a lot more.
Beside Isaac, who's lookin' likely, I don't really want anyone in particular.

Anybody know the story on Ryu getting in ?
That threw me as being really weird.
My first guess is it's just because they're already teaming with Capcom and the success of the thousands of versions of SFII on SNES.
Just another nail in poor Geno's coffin to me.  :66:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on June 26, 2015, 05:59:37 PM
Geno will never happen. Square stopped that from happening when they refused to let Nintendo buy the trademarks for those characters.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 27, 2015, 10:46:09 AM
*Still doesn't understand Geno's appeal*

Anyone up for a sextuple kill?
http://gfycat.com/DependentEarlyBlowfish
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on July 03, 2015, 02:16:25 AM
If you think of the most popular gaming characters, Smash already has a ton of them, and I guess Ryu's one of them that was chosen. Mario, Sonic, Pac Man, Mega Man, Ryu, Pikachu, etc. Pretty gucci
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on July 03, 2015, 06:39:03 AM
I was lookin' back through the thread to see if I could just quote myself on the topic of Geno, but it must have been in the old thread.

*Still doesn't understand Geno's appeal*
The only real appeal is that I think he looks cool and might make for a unique fighter. (And I love the ol' Mario RPG a bunch)

Geno will never happen. Square stopped that from happening when they refused to let Nintendo buy the trademarks for those characters.
Not that I ever really thought he had a chance to begin with, but dang man I didn't know that.
Guess that explains why him and Mallow haven't made it to a Mario Party.
Geno did get a cameo in SuperStar Saga though.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on July 19, 2015, 08:32:13 AM
Still think Sora would make for the best Square Enix representative if one of their characters ever made it in. He would fit in the game perfectly.

I've probably already posted the characters I wanted before, but I'll do it again because I have some new ones:
Isaac
Shadow the Hedgehog
Dixie Kong
Ghirahim
Rayman
Amaterasu (Okami)
Aeron (Pandora's Tower)
CD-i Link

And I want Wolf to come back too.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 01, 2015, 12:20:04 PM
They buffed Wii Fir Trainer with the last update. :30:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on August 01, 2015, 06:29:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cHBERgv.jpg)
Work those legs~
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 06, 2015, 07:22:49 AM
^Lol omg...

Question for y'all: If Isaac made it in Sm4sh, what stage would you want him to come with?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Ailanthus on August 07, 2015, 02:32:29 AM
I'd want the Kraken battle in the Karagol Sea.
There's already some boat levels though isn't there ?
Hmmm....
Maybe Suhalla Desert, with those Sandnadoes doin' stuff.
Like randomly warp you around the stage or flat out knock you out of the screen.
They could even have one of the lizards come out every once in a while and be similar to Yellow Devil.

Maybe something with Tret for the 3DS level.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on August 07, 2015, 07:07:23 AM
Eh, none of those parts really stuck out to me in the first GS. The Karagol Sea is pretty much my least favorite part of the game too...

I was thinking Mars Lighthouse for the Wii U version and Venus Lighthouse for the 3DS version.

For Venus Lighthouse, Saturos and Menardi would appear on either side of the stage, and when they get to the middle, they would light the beacon, which would become a large stage hazard for a period of time. You'd be able to prevent it from being lit by knocking Saturos and Menardi off the stage.

For Mars Lighthouse, the blizzard would make the stage windy, which would stop or change direction every now and then. Doom Dragon could show up as the stage boss, and once it's defeated, the beacon would be lit and create a hazard. If someone gets KO'd from the Mars beacon, whoever KO'd Doom Dragon gets the point (Similar to how the Yellow Devil and Ridley work).

Any of the lighthouses would make great stages, really (I'd love to see Jupiter Lighthouse in 3D just sayin'), but those two are the most iconic and have more interesting potential dynamics.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on August 17, 2015, 04:09:51 AM
I don't think it really matters as long as its iconic to the series.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on September 15, 2015, 10:54:17 AM
Super Mario Maker level for Smash Bros... Oh my gawsh this looks chaotic and potentially hilarious...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOdhFajSdj8
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on September 24, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
I'm gonna buy Rivals of Aether at some point cuz everyone's been loving it so far. The fighter that's the closest game to melee but not melee apparently
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on October 31, 2015, 12:18:47 PM
So... The ballot's over. Who do you think won?

My guesses are K. Rool (obvious), Shovel Knight and Banjo-Kazooie.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on November 01, 2015, 01:54:46 AM
Based on what people seem to want, probably K. Rool, Isaac, Shantae, Shovel Knight, or Wolf.

Seems my main rn is Ike, maybe DDD and Yoshi as secondaries
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on November 11, 2015, 05:53:14 AM
With a upcoming Direct coming up this week, my picks for dlc are...

Isaac, King K Rool, Sceptile and Daisy... I think all these characters are very likely and I hope to see every single one of them added. :)
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on November 12, 2015, 09:06:09 AM
The direct will be 13 hours from now, to be exact.

I've heard a rumor based on an alleged leak that they might actually have SIX characters instead of three, which is what most people assumed before. But... it is a rumor based on an alleged leak... so yeah.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on November 12, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
I mean Isaac isn't too farfetched if they're still adding sword characters

I get Cloud's an iconic game character but I don't think he's unique enough to be justified over others, but we'll see some more news in december i guess
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on November 13, 2015, 09:29:21 AM
His moveset seems different enough from what we saw. But I'm also getting the impression that he's going to be pretty O.P. We'll have to wait and see.

I still haven't played FF7, but this is still a cool announcement.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on December 17, 2015, 06:25:56 AM
Yeah so we get yet another Fire Emblem character... :43:

Bayonetta looks cool though. But that's all we get from the ballot. Pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on December 18, 2015, 12:54:12 AM
Not like they would be able to make 7 characters in 6 months (idk a thing about development tho)

I'm liking Cloud, he's like a second Ike, which is always nice. But DAMMIT THAT NEW EXTRA CHARACTERS TAB, there was literally a post where someone cut a few pixels off each square to make room for like 6 more characters and they decide to use an oversized extra characters tab
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on December 18, 2015, 02:20:57 PM
I haven't even turned on Smash in weeks, even though I plan on getting Cloud. But seriously?? They made an Extra characters tab, just like for the DLC stages? That's stupid...

Also, I don't think it would matter how long it'd take to develop characters, since adding new ones keeps people interested in the series for longer. Of course, with the NX being developed, they might even be working on Smash 5 now.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on December 24, 2015, 12:43:35 AM
The extra char tab seems to only be on the 3ds version, which makes sense since there's no way multiple people can pick if characters are on another screen

I think this is the definitive Smash and the NX version will just be Smash for NX. Considering how long it took from Brawl to Smash 4 I doubt they'll just make a brand new Smash
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on December 25, 2015, 03:46:40 AM
So you think it'll be ported to NX instead, maybe with the exclusive features bundled together into one game? Do you think they would make more characters after that is released?

Also, I've used Cloud now, and I have to admit he's pretty fun to use. I love his forward air dunk move so much.  :61:
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 25, 2016, 10:12:33 AM
I believe it's a stupid decision to end DLC so prematurely, just from the financial standpoint. If Project M can make three new fighters at once in a year (or would have if they had not shut down), Nintendo could make them at a much faster rate. I hate to say it, but I think that Sakurai leaving ssb's director role would be for the best due to his over perfectionist nature and his reluctance to add any DLC in the first place. Let him still work on it in a sort of advisory role, but let someone else call the shots on what needs to be added and what needs to be cut. After all, when was the last time anyone played Smash Tour or Target Blast?
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on January 26, 2016, 04:36:43 AM
I believe it's a stupid decision to end DLC so prematurely, just from the financial standpoint. If Project M can make three new fighters at once in a year (or would have if they had not shut down), Nintendo could make them at a much faster rate. I hate to say it, but I think that Sakurai leaving ssb's director role would be for the best due to his over perfectionist nature and his reluctance to add any DLC in the first place. Let him still work on it in a sort of advisory role, but let someone else call the shots on what needs to be added and wuhat needs to be cut. After all, when was the last time anyone played Smash Tour or Target Blast?
I can only imagine what the Smash fanbase is thinking, given all the hype and hope for the voted characters. And sadly, this means Golden Sun is now completely dead.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on January 26, 2016, 11:25:52 PM
Yeah, if they removed all of Golden Sun from Smash, I guess they just want the series to be over, which means no chance that they'll make a sequel.

So you think it'll be ported to NX instead, maybe with the exclusive features bundled together into one game? Do you think they would make more characters after that is released?
Saw this but never responded, yeah basically. I think what Sakurai was going for was to just keep building up from there, hence no unique names. So we'll just have a Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo NX with better graphics, and possibly/hopefully more content sans characters
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 27, 2016, 01:01:36 AM
Well, GS DID get a new song arrangement for the Palutena's Temple stage. A remix of Dark Dawn's Weyard theme.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 27, 2016, 06:54:10 AM
It's actually the original track, not a remix.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 27, 2016, 07:22:10 AM
Really? It sounds redone. I guess it's tv speakers vs a ds.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on January 27, 2016, 07:32:23 AM
Yeah, probably. They might have also used the original, uncompressed audio file, since they would have access to it.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 27, 2016, 07:36:55 AM
True. I never thought of any of this before, to be  honest.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on February 21, 2016, 12:23:24 AM
Bayonetta is a lot of fun to use, but also really difficult.
Corrin... I have not tried because I refuse to purchase him/her.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Aether on February 26, 2016, 10:42:29 PM
Corrin a best, shut your mouth
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on February 27, 2016, 12:28:13 PM
Like we needed another personality-free FE character tho. Just sayin'
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Light on March 12, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
Like we needed another personality-free FE character tho. Just sayin'
Exactly, we were better off with the return of Young Link (to promote the remasters of the N64 Zelda games). Why no Waluigi? Or King K. Krool? Or Isaac? Or Tails? Or just have freaking Son Goku in there, anything was better.
Title: Re: The New and Improved SSB4 Thread
Post by: Star Magician on June 26, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
Shrek tho

Wii Fit Trainer is becoming one of my best characters somehow.