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Title: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on July 19, 2012, 05:59:54 PM
I'm really curious to see who everyone thinks it is. Personally, I thought the Doom Dragon was the best, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Aether on July 20, 2012, 03:14:09 PM
The RAT is the best
After all, if you try to get back to patchers before the boss, You'll face it, freakin rats
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on July 20, 2012, 05:00:21 PM
The RAT is the best
After all, if you try to get back to patchers before the boss, You'll face it, freakin rats
Can't quite say I agree with that sentiment. Oh yeah, I was also talking about final bosses. ;) Thanks for the input, though! Keep it comin'!

You voted for Fusion Dragon, Moon?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on July 20, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
the fusion dragon

2 persons who are you sworn enemy,s and then fusionend :P
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on July 21, 2012, 03:58:13 PM
Yeah, I see your point. By the way, did you put your vote up top in the actual poll part?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on July 25, 2012, 06:26:03 AM
yes
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Aether on July 25, 2012, 01:43:08 PM
For realsies, I'd say Dullahan
I cant beat him :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Altearithe on July 31, 2012, 11:52:54 PM
As a final boss, I'd say Doom Dragon. I realized what happened to create it right before Kraden's lines when I took a closer look at the dragon. @.@
Pretty much went through the battle going "No...way...they didn't... Nuh-uh no way..." ^^;

Aside from the shock factor, the boss battle was challenging, but not overly so or overly annoying like Chaos Chimera was. Though I liked Chaos Chimera too, the spamming of a certain attack made me want to defenestrate my DSi.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on July 31, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
Well put! The boss was difficult, but not nearly impossible. The three states of the Dragon was interesting and the attacks (primarily Cruel Ruin) were fun to look at, but painful to see the results.

Chaos Chimera had some cool attacks, but it was too much of a pain. Fusion Dragon was too easy. Great attacks, but still too easy. Nobody shoot me for saying that!
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Altearithe on August 01, 2012, 03:45:27 AM
Yeah, not nearly impossible is right! I absolutely loved watching it use Cruel Ruin. :3 It was one of the best scenes used in battle, in my opinion.

No worries, I won't shoot you. XD You speak truth!
I beat that dragon at level 32 or so. Great attacks, yes, but as far as difficulty, I could manage it with minor difficulty at age 12.

Come to think of it, I think GS was my first RPG....
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on August 02, 2012, 02:16:32 AM
I agree. That, Catastrophe and Charon were my favorites.

The first time I played that game (when I was only, like, 13 (I got the game late)), I beat the Dragon at level 25, then kicked myself when I found out about Crossbone Isle and Deadbeard. Way too easy. Pretty cool attacks, though. Outer Space, Severe Blow, Dragon Rider. Awesome!

Mine was Pokemon Ruby. I actually still have it!
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Altearithe on August 02, 2012, 01:13:55 PM
I absolutely love Catastrophe and Charon. So freaking awesome. XD

Nice. o.o Oddly enough, I got to level 32 normally through. Then again, no guides so I had to backtrack loads. XD;
I know right? D: I didn't know you could go there early for that matter on the Tolbi-bound ship. I always took the tornado thing in the desert.

XD Ah, if you're counting Pokemon, then mine would then literally be Pokemon Blue when it first came out. :3

Damn...I feel old. :(
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on August 02, 2012, 07:14:16 PM
I mean, the trategy to beating Fusion Dragon is so simple that anyone could figure it out! Make use of Granite and Flash, strike with Ivan party heal with Mia when necessary. Simple!

I have Red, but I got it from my oldest brother.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Altearithe on August 02, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
Exactly. ^^

Ahh I see. :3 I got my Blue on my own. I have almost every version, but I still want emerald. XD
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on August 03, 2012, 02:41:41 AM
The Doom Dragon, on the other hand, isn't quite so simple. Provides a challenge.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Altearithe on August 03, 2012, 07:08:46 PM
I have to agree. That battle was pretty challenging. The extra turn/s threw me off my strategy a few times.

Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on August 03, 2012, 10:41:51 PM
I didn't use a strategy with him. I just fought how I'd normally fight: strike with three and heal. Although, I did have to use several Psy Crystals...
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Maegra on August 04, 2012, 12:41:49 AM
Damn...I feel old. :(
Don't, I used to until I realised we still have pleeeenty of years of gaming ahead of us. We can complain about 'the kids these days' when we have Final Fantasy XXXII and Call of Duty: Modern Black War Ops 23.

In any case, I never actually found any of the bosses hard. Maybe it's because when it comes to RPG's I always try to Min-max my characters, so things that should be a challenge are generally a breeze. Though I can see how Djinn Storm + Cruel Ruin could be a pain for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Aether on August 05, 2012, 08:48:07 PM
DULLAHAN DULLAHAN DULLAHAN
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on August 18, 2012, 09:41:06 AM
Doom Dragon, the only hard one out of the 3 imo. Fusion Dragon seemed cheesy for a last boss. Doom Dragon was a much more emotional finale. And the Chaos Chimera really just felt... phoned in to me.  :gsfrown:
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on August 19, 2012, 01:20:54 PM
I am in total agreement. Doomy was the best because he was a challange, but not overkill.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on October 27, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
I thought it was interesting how it got much stronger as the fight progressed despite losing its heads, as well as losing its number of turns.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on October 28, 2012, 07:05:09 PM
Fusion dragon was a good boss fight, Doom Dragon loved to catch me off guard so that one was the best.

Now chaos chimera...no just no. Why is that even a final boss? when i fought the first two final bosses i died 50 times before i beat them. Chaos Chimera, died only, count it, 1 freakin time! For me good final bosses are ones that you can go back to at the same level as when you first beat it and still be able to die, even though you know what attacks to use. That did not happen with Chaos Chimera.


I kinda wish that Golden Sun was a bit more imaginative with their final bosses.
i mean stop merging two or more people together!
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on October 29, 2012, 12:52:52 AM
I beat Chaos Chimera on my first try lol. I think I lost to Saturos and Menardi once, and lost to Fusion Dragon twice when I was a noob cake.

Doom Dragon beat me once, but I was way better at the game. It still caught me off guard the first time too and totally pwned me. *-*

Chaos Chimera... I beat it on my first try -.- it DID wipe out a lot of my part members (I had like 6 dead at one point), but I somehow managed to revive them all and win.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on October 29, 2012, 01:09:52 AM
What happens to me is that i die alot on most final bosses so i restart the game and play like that but DD was all like 1 play win. And im like. poop.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on October 29, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Restart the entire game???  :blink:
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on October 29, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
you wouldn't understand my reasoning.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on October 30, 2012, 04:59:36 AM
I can always try to :D
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on October 30, 2012, 05:21:12 AM
when i get stuck on the final boss i get bored so i re-do the whole game and get stuck on the final boss again. but this time i knew the before parts of the game better so i dont rush through the game and fight the final boss level 25 like i always do. now im at level 35 and i die less and less often. i like restarting the game because it gives me something to do.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 02, 2012, 01:44:19 PM
Makes sense to me. I usually don't restart a game until long after I've completed or given up on it though. It feels like grinding to me, which I have no attention span for anymore.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on November 02, 2012, 11:59:07 PM
anyways, Fufu dragon was cheesy only because Saturos and Menardi are all like we are more powerful than you and we can prove it because we can turn into an F'n dragon.
Now Doomy was like "Help us we were turned against are will and then we all morphed together in the most perverted way possible and now we're an F'n dragon.
Chao Chimy was, "We lost, now we turn on ze hackz andz nowz we shall killz you all withz our dumb weakz form that lookz like a retardz."
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on November 03, 2012, 07:56:27 PM
true but still

what has nintendo with fusions anyway?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 04, 2012, 06:24:00 AM
You mean Camelot? I can't think of another nintendo game that has a fusion other than Twinrova in the Zelda series...
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on November 19, 2012, 06:59:43 PM
Nor can I. Why fuse? For me, it's become expected for this series. I want them to break away from fusions.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on November 20, 2012, 04:52:20 AM
i want a rag ga tag team for inplace of it.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 20, 2012, 09:12:53 AM
Time for a battle between our party and two epic unfusions...? Don't ask.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on November 20, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
lolz
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 23, 2012, 01:13:58 AM
Seriously, now that I think about it, there aren't any unfusion epic bosses, only fusions o_O
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on November 23, 2012, 01:15:55 AM
What about Yamata-No-Orochi? (The great serpent?) defeated by Susano?(Susa) by getting it drunk?(Giving it "Dragonsbane" -_-)
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 25, 2012, 06:18:00 AM
What about it?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on November 25, 2012, 06:20:56 AM
It was one of my favorites, and it was unfused.(Albeit, I mostly like it because of the mythological reference, but still. Also, I played a lot of Okami)
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 25, 2012, 06:21:37 AM
Unfused how? lol, I don't know the myth at all >.>
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on November 25, 2012, 06:23:09 AM
It is not a fusion, and it was pretty epic. I love the story of Yamata. Don't know why. Just do.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 25, 2012, 06:25:07 AM
Ohhh, I meant like as a boss, a single enemy splits into two or more entities for the final battle.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on November 25, 2012, 06:27:31 AM
That needs to happen. That would be really cool.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on November 25, 2012, 12:14:14 PM
or a final boss with multiple parts, and story based party members fighting each part?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on November 26, 2012, 04:26:46 AM
Fusion dragon, honestly Saturos and Menardi had much bigger parts in the story, and were effective villains.

Kyle and Felix' parents had like what? 6 Lines.

Chaos Chimera is just to lame to name, I cared less for Sveta and her brother.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on November 26, 2012, 04:28:52 AM
I cast my vote for Doom Dragon. I found it to be a better battle experience. I felt challenged, when I fought it first.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Scorpio on November 26, 2012, 04:45:46 AM
I voted for Doom Dragon. It's theme was tense and Cruel Ruin was so powerful. It was also an emotional junk shot with the parents getting aced like that... I also had Isaac kill it with Megiddo once, so that's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on November 26, 2012, 07:00:30 PM
Yeah, my favorite was Doom Dragon too because it wasn't insanely powerful (like Chaos Chimera) but it wasn't insanely weak either (like Fusion Dragon). Plus, Cruel Ruin was epic. :D
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on November 28, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
I didn't like Fusion Dragon because it was never made clear how Saturos and Menardi, or maybe the Mars clan in general, had this ability. It just seemed like a cheesy way to make the last fight more "epic" when really the ending of GS1 is very, very anti-climactic. However, it's true that it doesn't need to be climactic since it's a "to be continued" ending anyway.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Will on November 28, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Fusion Dragon.

but the reason if chosed for it. was because interesting to see how the awsome  :saturos: in it was.

Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on November 30, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
I didn't like Fusion Dragon because it was never made clear how Saturos and Menardi, or maybe the Mars clan in general, had this ability. It just seemed like a cheesy way to make the last fight more "epic" when really the ending of GS1 is very, very anti-climactic. However, it's true that it doesn't need to be climactic since it's a "to be continued" ending anyway.
They had this ability as symbol of mars is that of a dragon....

http://goldensunwiki.net/images/f/f3/MarsLighthouse12.png (http://goldensunwiki.net/images/f/f3/MarsLighthouse12.png)

I assume that only Venus can also do this because of it's symbolic relationship with mars.

So no Jupiter or Mercury Dragons :P

Anyway, Doom Dragon does not appeal to me since we barely got to know Kyle or Felix' Parents, it in itself was a terrible plot twist, I had no sympathy when the party realized who they killed.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on December 05, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
A dragon symbolizes fire, sure, but that explains not how the Mars clan was blessed with such abilities.

Isn't Azul a Mercury Dragon?What about Eclipse?

Let's be honest here- all three games have last bosses that left much to be desired. Saturos and Menardi suddenly turning into a dragon is also a terrible plot twist. Blados and Chalis's last ditch effort to fuse into the Chaos Chimera was also a terrible plot twist. Yet, those two are both the same. These abilities just appear out of nowhere with no explanation (although they still have GS4 to fix that, but I doubt it will happen). They never explain fire and earth's symbiotic relationship either. They just say it.
With the Doom Dragon, yes there could have been a better last boss. I would have preferred the Wise One to summon the spirits of the strongest guardians of all four elements to try and strike them down, and (part of what I think the Wise One really does with the Doom Dragon) test their resolve to see if they are truly worthy of wielding alchemy in its purest form.
There's more to what I'm trying to say, but maybe I'm just making it more complicated than it really is. Felix and Jenna's experience atop Mars Lighthouse is something that really can be emphasized in the next game to make the plot a bit less impersonal and dry. Although... I'm not holding my breath. Volechek is probably still alive too, judging by the way The Lost Age played out in the end...
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on December 05, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
I liked Doom Dragon as a boss in its essence, but as a plot structure, I agree with L and Star...it sucked. Now, if it wasn't fusion and it was those spirits or just Psynergy made into physical, living manifestations, that'd have been real interesting.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on December 07, 2012, 04:54:16 AM
A dragon symbolizes fire, sure, but that explains not how the Mars clan was blessed with such abilities.

Isn't Azul a Mercury Dragon?What about Eclipse?

Let's be honest here- all three games have last bosses that left much to be desired. Saturos and Menardi suddenly turning into a dragon is also a terrible plot twist. Blados and Chalis's last ditch effort to fuse into the Chaos Chimera was also a terrible plot twist. Yet, those two are both the same. These abilities just appear out of nowhere with no explanation (although they still have GS4 to fix that, but I doubt it will happen). They never explain fire and earth's symbiotic relationship either. They just say it.
With the Doom Dragon, yes there could have been a better last boss. I would have preferred the Wise One to summon the spirits of the strongest guardians of all four elements to try and strike them down, and (part of what I think the Wise One really does with the Doom Dragon) test their resolve to see if they are truly worthy of wielding alchemy in its purest form.
There's more to what I'm trying to say, but maybe I'm just making it more complicated than it really is. Felix and Jenna's experience atop Mars Lighthouse is something that really can be emphasized in the next game to make the plot a bit less impersonal and dry. Although... I'm not holding my breath. Volechek is probably still alive too, judging by the way The Lost Age played out in the end...
Azul is a serpent, not a dragon.

Eclipse more than likely is simply restricted to Jupiter and Mercury since there is not Dark Djinn yet, this will likely change.

If that is not the case, Eclipse being a dragon is simply because of the Jupiter's alignment towards the wind, so I am wrong on Jupiter dragons possibly, but I doubt Mercury dragon are possible, again could also change.

The Mars clan having their powers is possibly because the proxians are cross-bred hybrids of Humans and Dragons, this can make sense how they have dragon scales and can form into dragons, but USUALLY require another host to achieve form (Saturos and Menardi, Kyle and Felix' Parents), however in some cases, individual dragons can be formed by unworldly powers (like the Wise One).

The wise one is more likely a fusion of the "a few wise men sealed the powers of Alchemy" people; if not, then he is some legendary leader that at one point was a human.

Generally, Garet and Isaac could form a dragon together, but it is not likely.

Adding to that, while Felix' mother was not a proxian, it is possible she is of proxian descent.

As for Chaos Chimera's existence, it is likely that it was just a last minute thing from Camelot, since the boss was completely not in sink with the rest of the game's difficulty.


Anyway, I doubt we are gonna get an explanation from the next game for the dragons, after all, Dark Dawn barely even mentioned them.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on December 07, 2012, 04:57:23 AM

Azul is a serpent, not a dragon.


Then why, crytell, does it's description call it a dragon. Why does it now have arms, thus making it not a full-on serpent(As of Dark Dawn)?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on December 07, 2012, 05:02:03 AM

Azul is a serpent, not a dragon.


Then why, crytell, does it's description call it a dragon. Why does it now have arms, thus making it not a full-on serpent(As of Dark Dawn)?
In some cultures, a Dragon is not a constricting beast, that is instead a serpent, although again, I might be wrong one what Camelot was using to describe a Dragon.

Anyway, let's just move on shall we?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on December 07, 2012, 07:34:46 AM
Yes very cool, like FSA shadow link. (not dark)
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on December 07, 2012, 06:31:24 PM
Do you have any suggestions, Axel?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on December 10, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
I don't see why there can't be a dragon based on wind or water. That would just be limiting one's creativity, which is a very bad thing to do (or just being closed-minded). I like to think of great serpents and dragons as one in the same, serpents just being a different form of dragon (there's also lizards and wyrms, among other names for dragon "species"). They do call the dragon of Gaia Rock a serpent as well.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Nyran on December 10, 2012, 06:26:37 AM
I agree with this.

Srsly though, Wise One as a boss
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on December 10, 2012, 06:39:24 AM
I don't think the Wise One has a role anymore though.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on December 10, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
But should he?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on December 10, 2012, 03:16:12 PM
But should he?
Yes, he should be killed by Alex, as revenge >:D
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on December 10, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
That could work. I'm going to post a thread about this on the GS4 board so we can be on topic about it there. Cool?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on December 11, 2012, 06:37:01 AM
Well I woule suggest a Final Boss sequence. One boss 2-4 boss fights. Like in KH and FF the 4 heroes of Light.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on December 13, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
And then, after you beat GS4, have some sort of "Boss Rush" activity where you can go back and fight every boss there was in the entire series...one right after another! Or, a mode where you can refight bosses, but you choose which.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on December 16, 2012, 06:17:37 AM
I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED THAT SO MUCH WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE GAME I HAVE PLAYED! I am talking about choose which boss.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on May 27, 2013, 04:14:49 AM
I like the Fusion Dragon because of how charismatic Saturos and Menardi were transforming into it, it reminded me of Ganondorf turning into Ganon in OoT.

However I do like the power the Doom Dagon had, but I didn't like that it was merely Kyle and Felix's parents turned into a dragon, I often ignore this plot just so I can enjoy what a monster this dragon truly is, especially with that Cruel Rain.

I often wonder was the Doom Dragon a result of Dark Binding like the Chaos Chimera?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Rolina on May 27, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
Fusion Dragon for me.  It felt like a legitimate challenge, testing me to my limits.

Doom Dragon, on the other hand, felt like much of the difficulty came from cheap AI and Cruel Ruin spam - as such, most of the challenge was simply minimizing and recovering damage.

Chaos Chimera was ruined for me because the music sucks for that fight.  While in terms of difficulty it was... alright (certainly the only decent fight in the game), the music was god awful, and I just can't enjoy it.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on May 27, 2013, 10:47:54 PM
Actually the music was good. It just did NOT FIT THE FRIGGIN GAME....that style does not go with Golden Sun. And certainly not a final boss.

Fusion Dragon was very limited on what it did though.

It spammed with Break, Dragon Driver, and Evil blessing a lot.

I never seen it use Deadly gas when it supposedly could do that.

Drain Fang was only used like 3 times during one battle.

The real challenge for me was because you were forced to fight this without any chance to heal.

Now Doomy here was sprawled out with what he did to me.

First it used Earthquake, Blast Breath, Guard Aura, and Earth Force (which always does nothing to me.) And I have to say it did spam Guard Aura a lot.

Then (if this didn't happen to you then I must have a weird game.) It switched to Quake Sphere, kept the other ones, then added Cruel Ruin, Gravel Blow, curse and haunt.

Lastly it just spammed a bunch of Cruel Ruin, Blast Breath, and Quake Sphere.

It may not have been as challenging, but It was a lot more fun than Fusion Dragon.

Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Rolina on May 28, 2013, 02:26:27 AM
IMO, what I think an idea fight would be is this:

Fair, balanced mechanics of the Fusion Dragon Fight
Possible moveset of the Doom Dragon fight (8x3 for moveset size, 3 separate movesets)
Difficulty progression of the Chaos Chimera fight (moveset changes in proportion to remaining HP)

And for music, FD and DD had good songs, but the CC's has no business being in Golden Sun.

@Ivan:  Earth force has a chance to inflict Pralayze on you (same as Cage, Petra, and Ground - not to be confused with stun).  If you have luck values that are any decent on your characters, you'll have full immunity (it's about the same rate as insta-KO).
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 17, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
Dude, I just got done battling  :saturos: and  :menardi: the other day, that battle plus the Fusion Dragon is just so epic.

I especially love countering them with my own dragon, Tiamat, I just love summoning her against them and battling dragon vs dragon, and it's super effective since Fusion Dragon is a dragon type.

What I didn't like about the Doom Dragon was basically, like Volechek as the Chimera, it didn't talk, nor did it have personality and  basically it was Kyle and Felix's parents forced to battle to the death, which didn't make sense, I didn't understand it.

Unlike the Fusion Dragon where it was  :saturos: and  :menardi: actually wanting to battle  :isaac: :garet: :ivan: and  :mia: and they were out for blood.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Scorpio on June 18, 2013, 06:36:17 AM
Doom Dragon was created to kill. Simple as that. If it had killed them, they wouldn't have been worthyh of restoring Alchemy.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on June 18, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
Fusion Dragon was a last minute ditch that was supposed to ensure the deaths of Isaac and Co. but they apparently didn't get to full power in time and they had reverted to their original forms and killed themselves.

So much for a suicide mission.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on June 18, 2013, 08:41:01 PM
I couldn't help but to laugh when I looked at this and noticed that NOBODY VOTED FOR THE CHAOS CHIMERA!
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 19, 2013, 02:47:54 AM
I couldn't help but to laugh when I looked at this and noticed that NOBODY VOTED FOR THE CHAOS CHIMERA!

Maybe it's because everybody wanted to see another dragon.

If they couldn't think of anything good, just put Bowser as the final boss.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Rolina on June 19, 2013, 02:52:51 AM
It's probably because of two things - first, association with Dark Dawn, almost universally seen as the weakest in the series.  Two, the music is absolutely horrible.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on June 19, 2013, 03:24:10 AM
And All the other bosses posed more a challenge than CC
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Light on June 19, 2013, 03:27:27 AM
Personally, they should of just had us end on per say, a cliff hanger of a battle (basically Matthew and co. Are about to fight something, then the game ends)
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on June 19, 2013, 03:32:52 AM
Yah have a side story that goes the same time that this one does. Screw the Chaos Chimera. Get a different more challenging Final boss. and then have those teams team up and fight it. Like Matt and Co are going to get there A**es handed to them, but the other team comes in and saves the day.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 19, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Or Alex jumps in and saves the day.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on June 20, 2013, 02:54:11 AM
Or Isaac and gang. Or was that already said. If so, don't judge me. I'm tired. I just got home from work an hour ago.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Ivan Strider on June 21, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
no. We just literally got into another conversation which was this one started by my last post here.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 21, 2013, 09:07:54 PM
How about signature moves?

Fusion Dragon: Outer Space, and Dragon Driver

Doom Dragon: Cruel Rain

Chaos Chimera: What was it again?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Star Magician on June 22, 2013, 01:07:05 AM
Chaos Chimera: What was it again?
More proof of how forgettable DD is xD
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 22, 2013, 01:35:13 AM
I wonder if there's anybody who calls Blados Saturos?

Just saying he kind of looks like a Proxian, just a little.

Sometimes I call Chalis, Succubus, Nightmare or Siren because she looks like she is part of that monster class.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Tetsu (Soltur) on June 24, 2013, 05:43:32 AM
I never noticed that about Chalis! All I saw was a manipulative girl who always wanted to get her own way. I hate that woman...thing.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Rolina on June 24, 2013, 01:39:37 PM
Really?  That was one of the most talked about things about her when the game came out.
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Halcyonic Legend on June 24, 2013, 03:02:46 PM
Really?  That was one of the most talked about things about her when the game came out.
What was? That she looked similar to the succubus class?
Title: Re: Best Final Boss
Post by: Team Flare Zakk ( Agatio ) on June 24, 2013, 09:13:50 PM
I always thought she was the Succubus queen or something.