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Offline Merc

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« on: February 09, 2015, 07:28:54 AM »
I haven't posted here in over half a year. I've visited the site around 3 times in that timespan.

It's hard for me to say now that I'm actually typing something on this site, but this isn't going to change.

This place was good to me. It, quite honestly, was my first real foray into the internet, actually talking to people and thinking as opposed to just consuming content. It also helped me learn that I'm a lot better at expressing myself through writing than through speech, something that has helped me immensely over the past couple of years. This place was the reason why I got invested in video games. Before TLW, I played video games, but I was much more of a reader than a gamer. Talking with people online about games helped get me more interested in video games, as then I'd have more to talk about. I grew quite attached to this place, though there was a rough patch where I was going through a difficult time and tried to cut myself off by deleting my account. For those who were there, you know how long that lasted. For those who weren't there, I was in the chatbox the entire time, commenting on whatever was going on in the forums, and then I reactivated my account about a month later. I was still too attached to this place to leave.

However, some things began changing after I returned. One big factor was that I had found GSAR. While I was attached to TLW, GSAR was a community that I absolutely fell in love with and it gradually began taking up more and more of my time on the internet. I went from visiting TLW first when I go online to visiting GSAR first, and eventually starting to focus so much on GSAR and the fun I was having there that I often forgot to go onto TLW before I closed my computer.

Then, I also started changing personally. When I first got here, I was very content with quick, low quality posts on things like forum games and such. This was coming out of middle school, at which point I had social problems and was reaching out for as much social contact I could get that wasn't through school. Over time, that became the way I saw TLW: an easy way to talk to people and have fun, without the complications I was going through IRL. However, once I got older, got more mature, and my IRL social life began to play a bigger part in my life, I started wanting a more intellectual discussion, and I couldn't figure out how to have that here. It's not that it was impossible to at this place (because it's not), but I simply couldn't figure out how to change how I interacted with this place so I could enjoy it more.

Then, I started getting busy with school. Or, rather, I started trying harder at school, and that left me tired and with even less time than I had before. I cut down on the time I spent online, which cut down on the time I spent here.

Finally, because I want to be completely honest to honor the people here and the time I've invested into this site, I stopped coming on here because of Agatio. I will write this next part addressed directly to the person in question. If this is too much, feel free to get a mod to remove it. I'll leave it in white so that those who want to ignore it can do so easily. Simply highlight it if you want to read.

Agatio, when you first got here, I did not expect you to stay. But then you stayed. Then, I hoped that you would leave. You didn't leave. Interacting with you was frustrating beyond belief. When expressing an opinion, you would write it as fact and jump down the throat of anybody who dared to disagree. When I tried to explain to you that this was a problem, you blatantly ignored it. Repeatedly. You didn't address the points I brought up, try to change, explain, or even defend why you acted, and act, the way you did and do. Rather, you hid from the criticism and went on doing exactly what you had been doing, showing a complete disregard for the fact that there were human beings on the other end of the monitor, trying to communicate with you. Eventually, I realized you'd never listen. At that point, arguing with you felt pointless, but dealing with you was worse. Ignoring you was painful, since you were everywhere and one of the most active people on the forum at the time. Posting on here didn't just stop being fun for me, it became painful. I tried to connect so I could keep interacting with this place, the people here, in a way that was enjoyable, and I got absolutely nothing in return.

However, I've left now. Congratulations, you drove me away. Feel free to continue using this place as a way to puff up your own ego and force your opinion on others. It no longer affects me, and it only affects you if you want it to.

Maybe that was overly selfish. Maybe it was bitter. However, it was an honest reflection of how I felt every moment online, so I do not regret writing it.

Overall, I am thankful for this place. If I disliked, resented, or didn't care about this place, I would not bother taking the time to explain why I left. I feel as though you deserve an explanation, so here is the best explanation I can offer at this time.

I'm sorry I couldn't find a way to make it work out. If you want to talk to me, you can probably guess where to find me.

Thank you.

Goodbye.

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 07:55:41 AM »
Nice knowing you, pal. As someone with very little time to come here, I know how hard it can be, so I hold you no I'll will. To be perfectly honest, I'd probably have left if this wasn't the only place I could talk to my best friend. Making time is hard, but it's part of growing up, putting things behind you that you have no time for.

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 07:43:46 PM »
I understand how you feel. Your presence here was very much appreciated, by myself and others, I'm sure. Keep the good memories you've experienced here close to your heart, and don't let the negative ones take them away.

One thing in particular I want to address:
Then, I also started changing personally. When I first got here, I was very content with quick, low quality posts on things like forum games and such. This was coming out of middle school, at which point I had social problems and was reaching out for as much social contact I could get that wasn't through school. Over time, that became the way I saw TLW: an easy way to talk to people and have fun, without the complications I was going through IRL. However, once I got older, got more mature, and my IRL social life began to play a bigger part in my life, I started wanting a more intellectual discussion, and I couldn't figure out how to have that here. It's not that it was impossible to at this place (because it's not), but I simply couldn't figure out how to change how I interacted with this place so I could enjoy it more.

I recall having a conversation somewhere about this, and I think it was you... Anyway, I felt the same way, but also that you were the only one willing to have any sort of deeper discussion. We were basically in a catch-22 here. While I could have tried to start something serious, I felt like nobody would respond to it, especially since you never appeared to be online. This changed a bit when Steady (Ailanthus) came back, but not enough. Now, the opportunity seems to be gone. Most of what's left that gets any attention are spam or status update-type threads. And, even that's becoming more sparse over time.

I can be petty and blame Nintendo and Camelot not releasing Golden Sun 4 as the cause of this forum's decay, or blame Sea King and Neptune for never giving this place life in ways that only they can, but meh. We could have tried to make it better too, but we never actually tried. Personally, I now only come to this site frequently because it's habitual. The fun I used to have here is slowly waning, and it's started to feel pointless to continue.

Maybe GSAR is a solution. I still haven't joined, but I might now. I feel like The Chaos Theater has been slowly becoming my new home. However, there are various social barriers preventing me from feeling accepted there. This, coupled with the distance I've begun to feel towards everyone here, makes it feel like I'm still at square one, where I was before I joined this site.

I understand your desire to finally absent yourself from this place. You will be missed, as you already were by your few remaining friends here at TLW.

Well, that turned out longer than I expected. Just sayin'

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2015, 10:09:44 PM »
Yeah, I definitely think that this is not much of an environment for a serious talk. I barely even do much because there aren't that many threads to talk with, or threads I just feel like ignoring. All that's really been happening is Star and Ailan havin chats and that's basically it. On the whitenote, I agree with all you said, but I just ignored that part.

You ain't dead so that's a good thing, and no need to keep a tie here just cuz. Peace  :22:

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 12:31:46 AM »
Well. Guess, I'm too late to really say anything.
You were a member I respected since I first came here. (and during my time on the other one)
my first real foray into the internet, actually talking to people and thinking as opposed to just consuming content.
This is true for me as well, though I guess thinking wasn't something I actually did very much back then.
It's why I came back. It's where I first tried to reach out. I didn't conduct myself very well, and wanted to return to try and repay.
Even though these waters are stagnating, so I can't really feel like I accomplished that.
I understand your reasons for parting and you have been missing for quite a while. (At least you didn't blame me.)
So, I guess I can't really feel much surprise. 
I find myself agreeing with nearly all of Star's sentiments, but I don't think I'll leave here and can't really get involved with another community since I just feel real awkward until I end up leaving.

Take care man, hope things all go well for you, or at least as much as they can.
(I can't really express how I feel correctly, but since you probably won't end up reading this, I guess it's just fine.)
How sad it is that we give up on people who are just like us. ~ Fred Rogers

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 08:31:07 AM »

What is it to read the information into knowledge so too. I like it a lot because I'm not that good.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 03:38:09 PM »
You know, Merc, I totally get you, man. This was my first attempt at the whole internet thing, too. It was a good experience. I'm not active on here because TLW isn't active. I'd try to bring activity, but when I'm on, nobody else is, so I don't really see any reason to give it a shot. I know that's a lazy and bullshit thing to say [pardon the vulgarity], but that's the truth of the matter. I'm seldom active here, but there are a handful of people that are still active that I come in to check on. I especially missed Star Magician and Scorpio. You two were amazing. Scorpio, you helped me through some of my worst times. Star, you made me smile with every one of your posts.

That being said, I don't see myself perusing this site much more myself, but I'll be more than happy to leave contact information. My Skype is live:zachmcv001 and my Discord is Lunor#0891. Feel free to poke me any time.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2017, 11:12:30 AM »
I hope you guys looked at the dates of the posts first. Just sayin' :55:

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